The issue in this thread was the blanket statements and the refusal to adjust or retract when presented with clear evidence to the contrary.
I'll give you an example from Fungs Instagram:
As I've already said repeatedly, I was eating 200-400g of carbs and achieving a recomp effect. Yes that recomp was a "one off" due to 11 months of no training. But for other cuts, I don't drop carbs significantly until I'm close to single digit body fat, and that's only because my protein intake never changes and the body needs a minimum intake of fat.
Therefore whilst the advice in the picture may be right for some people, it's clearly not relevant for everyone - do you agree?
Also, if you follow what l posted earlier:
You get to his page:
Meal frequency, intermittent fasting, and dietary protein | The poor, misunderstood calorie
Which is interesting because he's got a screenshot of Fung replying to him
Summary of the page:
"This wasn’t well-received in social media because bro-science & many low carb advocates say grazing is no longer in vogue — “it’s much better/healthier/whatever to eat once or twice daily, because intermittent fasting and all that jazz” …however, this may be problematic when it comes to meeting overall protein needs, which is particularly important when you’re losing weight."
And the above is Fung replying with the "science study fallacy" - if a study supports your worldview it's good science, if it contradicts your worldview it's bad science.
Conclusion summary:
"6 meals per day was better for body composition than 2 meals per day. But context is everything, and this hypothesis has been tested from a variety of different angles, so what does it mean?
Result: “a diet with a high-protein concentration, fed as
frequent small meals, is associated with better preservation of lean tissue than an isoenergetic diet with lower-protein concentration fed as fewer meals.”
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If you’re losing weight (ie, in an energy deficit), then intermittent fasting is cool
if protein intake is high (above “adequateTM“)… the bigger the energy deficit, the more protein is necessary to optimize changes in body composition."
As should be obvious by now, I'm interested in body composition, preservation of muscle etc
Which is why
Burnem Wizfyre
advice or belief of "hahaha you could have fasted and you would have got better results" is clearly contrary to what the science says.
