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Koushirou said:
Mentally, my entire day just revolves around food.
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Can you have someone else shop for you with strict instructions to only buy healthy foods? Snacking stops feeling so good when you've eaten your 15th apple of the day and the next-tastiest thing is in the house is broccoli. Something else that helps is to drink a glass of water every time you think you're hungry. I'm one of those people who seems to have a crossed wire between hunger and thirst signals.

I feel you, though. I have a sweet tooth and the food drive of a bear prepping for hibernation. It's a constant struggle.
 
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Can you have someone else shop for you with strict instructions to only buy healthy foods? Snacking stops feeling so good when you've eaten your 15th apple of the day and the next-tastiest thing is in the house is broccoli. Something else that helps is to drink a glass of water every time you think you're hungry. I'm one of those people who seems to have a crossed wire between hunger and thirst signals.

I feel you, though. I have a sweet tooth and the food drive of a bear prepping for hibernation. It's a constant struggle.
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Only person that could would be my husband who is much, much worse than me. I always prep a shopping list and, if by myself, will just hit that list and leave. Husband is the type to go down almost every aisle and just grab stuff which makes it that much more likely for me to grab something naughty.
I drink water constantly throughout the day, but honestly, it’s not like I’m ever actually hungry, it’s just that for every occasion, something tasty is the answer, whether it’s stress, boredom, happiness, watching a movie, grinding in a game. Mentally, I’m just entirely fucked up.
 
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Only person that could would be my husband who is much, much worse than me. I always prep a shopping list and, if by myself, will just hit that list and leave. Husband is the type to go down almost every aisle and just grab stuff which makes it that much more likely for me to grab something naughty.
I drink water constantly throughout the day, but honestly, it’s not like I’m ever actually hungry, it’s just that for every occasion, something tasty is the answer, whether it’s stress, boredom, happiness, watching a movie, grinding in a game. Mentally, I’m just entirely fucked up.
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Meditation or therapy would be my suggestion to get to the root of your anxieties. I 100% understand how hard it can be to restart after losing motivation. I was doing real well until about a year ago when a family member betrayed me and destroyed the home we had been working together on. Even now it's really hard to give a shit about it, but I am getting back on the horse one step at a time.

I am working through everything in my pantry and freezer that isn't individually portioned. Right now 2/3 of my meals are specific calorie amounts. Once I have it all logged I will start refining what I eat to get down to ~1500 calories daily while I get started on stretching. Going to just focus on that for a while, since my back has decided I am too old for this shit and is trying to die on me regularly. Once that heals up properly I will hopefully be down a few pounds and I will start walking a couple times a week.

Long term I will probably stretch daily even after I hit my goal. It's great cardio, and is the best thing you can do for yourself to prevent injuries.
 
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Been trying on and off for about 10 years now to try and lose weight and actually keep it off. I’ll get into a routine of counting calories and going on walks every day. I can’t seem to actually keep it up long term. After a few months I’ll be down 20-30lbs, but then some shit in life happens or something disrupts routine and it’s all over and then I’ll go up 25-35lbs. So while I was ~160 ten years ago, I’ve just yo-yo’d my way up to the 220s.
I don’t really know what to do. Well, I do. Just not stop what I’m doing, but in reality, I’m too weak for it. I’m constantly anxious and depressed and stressed about shit and while maybe going for a walk will make me feel a little better, eating makes me feel a lot better. Mentally, my entire day just revolves around food. Despite sleeping regular hours and being on the cpap now, I still feel like a complete pile of shit every morning and usually the only thing eventually pulling me out of bed before I absolutely have to is breakfast. Soon as I’m done with that, I’m counting the hours until lunch, then dinner, and then if I’ve hit my calorie cap for the day I may as well just go to sleep so I can get breakfast.
Another thing I just don’t understand about myself is that I would have hoped that after my increasing health problems, shrinking amount of clothes I can fit into, and just generally hating looking at myself, some level of self-preservation would kick in and I would have at least a small level of motivation to fix my shit, but instead I just get the opposite: more stress and anxiety which just means I want to eat. I try guilting myself by imagining what would happen if I died, what my husband would have to do with me gone, my parents burying me, etc. and not even that shit works.
Sorry for the bitchy rant. I do want to lose weight, but fuck me, I just can’t seem to get myself to do it and it just adds to my shit mood and I know eventually it’s probably just going to kill me early. Maybe I should try something else, but I have no clue what.
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I'm probably the worst person to give diet/exercise advice since I've never actually managed to keep weight off (although I haven't actually gained any in like 25 years either, well, other than gaining short-term losses back). But I know I do better when I eat keto and lift weights (no source, but I think lifting flips some switches in your brain that give much more benefit than a simple count of calories expended would suggest). I just always fall of the wagon for months at a time. However, I figured if I could get the most lifting done in the shortest possible time, I'd be more likely to stick with that than anything else, so I got a trap bar and some weights and just try to do a handful of reps every day. I'll let you know in a year or so if it worked :p

If you can scrounge up the motivation to do this for literally less than one minute a day, it will help. Like literally pick it up and put it down 5 times. The trap bar lets you deadlift a bit more easily than a straight bar (and it's less unwieldy to have in a normal room), but bad form can still fuck up your back. So if you've never deadlifted before, youtube some videos, start really light and work up slowly. Trap bars are pretty cheap from amazon, and you can grab a few plates pretty cheaply at any used sports store. You just need a couple to get started, or even just use the bar with no plates at first (it weighs 45lbs).
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I think the best thing to help would be a friend. Most people are incapable of change on their own, they need someone else to be accountable to/for.

Do you have any friends that share the same goal? Or, alternatively, do you have any skinny friends that you can tag along with? If the motivation can't come from within, it must come from without.
 
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Koushirou said:
Been trying on and off for about 10 years now to try and lose weight and actually keep it off. I’ll get into a routine of counting calories and going on walks every day. I can’t seem to actually keep it up long term. After a few months I’ll be down 20-30lbs, but then some shit in life happens or something disrupts routine and it’s all over and then I’ll go up 25-35lbs. So while I was ~160 ten years ago, I’ve just yo-yo’d my way up to the 220s.
I don’t really know what to do. Well, I do. Just not stop what I’m doing, but in reality, I’m too weak for it. I’m constantly anxious and depressed and stressed about shit and while maybe going for a walk will make me feel a little better, eating makes me feel a lot better. Mentally, my entire day just revolves around food. Despite sleeping regular hours and being on the cpap now, I still feel like a complete pile of shit every morning and usually the only thing eventually pulling me out of bed before I absolutely have to is breakfast. Soon as I’m done with that, I’m counting the hours until lunch, then dinner, and then if I’ve hit my calorie cap for the day I may as well just go to sleep so I can get breakfast.
Another thing I just don’t understand about myself is that I would have hoped that after my increasing health problems, shrinking amount of clothes I can fit into, and just generally hating looking at myself, some level of self-preservation would kick in and I would have at least a small level of motivation to fix my shit, but instead I just get the opposite: more stress and anxiety which just means I want to eat. I try guilting myself by imagining what would happen if I died, what my husband would have to do with me gone, my parents burying me, etc. and not even that shit works.
Sorry for the bitchy rant. I do want to lose weight, but fuck me, I just can’t seem to get myself to do it and it just adds to my shit mood and I know eventually it’s probably just going to kill me early. Maybe I should try something else, but I have no clue what.
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I think the best thing to help would be a friend. Most people are incapable of change on their own, they need someone else to be accountable to/for.

Do you have any friends that share the same goal? Or, alternatively, do you have any skinny friends that you can tag along with? If the motivation can't come from within, it must come from without.
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I’m unfortunately pretty much friendless, both online and off (which, while it hasn’t really bothered the past few years, lately it’s been starting to get to me). Husband unfortunately has the same problems with weight, only he has a much shittier day-to-day life than I do, so it’s even harder for him. Best I’ve got for outside motivation is competing with my brother through our Apple fitness and getting his workout notifications.

The trap bar sounds easy enough, but my right arm has been shot for months after waking up with the circulation cut off and it’s now weak enough that brushing my hair is both difficult and exhausting. My doctor just left her practice and earliest I can see my new doctor is…October. Could look into getting some little baby dumbells at least, since I have to hope even lifting some little 5lbers is better than nothing.
 
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I’m unfortunately pretty much friendless, both online and off (which, while it hasn’t really bothered the past few years, lately it’s been starting to get to me). Husband unfortunately has the same problems with weight, only he has a much shittier day-to-day life than I do, so it’s even harder for him. Best I’ve got for outside motivation is competing with my brother through our Apple fitness and getting his workout notifications.

The trap bar sounds easy enough, but my right arm has been shot for months after waking up with the circulation cut off and it’s now weak enough that brushing my hair is both difficult and exhausting. My doctor just left her practice and earliest I can see my new doctor is…October. Could look into getting some little baby dumbells at least, since I have to hope even lifting some little 5lbers is better than nothing.
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I would say kill 2 birds with one stone then. Find a sport or a gym or something to join, meet some people, get in shape. Fuck, even a bowling league would probably suffice for just getting you up and active and meeting people and making relationships. Also, more activity is gonna help with your physical issues too, more than any doctor would.

I am beyond fucking pissed that I spent years and years dealing with peptic ulcers and seeing all level of doctors from family practice to specialists and literally no one told me "just eat more protein and you'll be fine." That's essentially the only change I've made. I still eat cookies and pumpkin pie and drink soda on the weekends and I lost weight and gained muscle mass just by eating 160-200g of protein and lifting semi regularly. You can do it. Just gotta start small. Are you using an app for calories? I REALLY recommend Macrofactor for tracking your shit, it does all the work for you and adapts to you. Make small changes every day, do more activity every day, and both of those things end up having huge long term benefits because you get up and doing something which makes you feel better and less depressed. Take pictures too - real, honest pictures. Seeing the difference month after month helps you stay motivated too.

Just remember - you didn't go from 160 to 220 in a day. You won't get back there in a day. The goal isn't to be 160. The goal is to be 210. Then 205. Then 200.....
 
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My Dr started me on Zepbound for weight loss. I was at 325 when I started it two weeks ago, and I'm at 306 now. Makes me feel like shit though.
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Dude just do a water fast. It's literally free and works much better than any drug ever could.
 
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Dude just do a water fast. It's literally free and works much better than any drug ever could.
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Free? What do you mean? My artisanal water is $9 a pint, no one can afford to just drink water. You ableist scum!
 
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Koushirou said:
I’m unfortunately pretty much friendless, both online and off (which, while it hasn’t really bothered the past few years, lately it’s been starting to get to me). Husband unfortunately has the same problems with weight, only he has a much shittier day-to-day life than I do, so it’s even harder for him. Best I’ve got for outside motivation is competing with my brother through our Apple fitness and getting his workout notifications.

The trap bar sounds easy enough, but my right arm has been shot for months after waking up with the circulation cut off and it’s now weak enough that brushing my hair is both difficult and exhausting. My doctor just left her practice and earliest I can see my new doctor is…October. Could look into getting some little baby dumbells at least, since I have to hope even lifting some little 5lbers is better than nothing.
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Is your grip ok? You don't really lift with your arms:
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Koushirou said:
Been trying on and off for about 10 years now to try and lose weight and actually keep it off. I’ll get into a routine of counting calories and going on walks every day. I can’t seem to actually keep it up long term. After a few months I’ll be down 20-30lbs, but then some shit in life happens or something disrupts routine and it’s all over and then I’ll go up 25-35lbs. So while I was ~160 ten years ago, I’ve just yo-yo’d my way up to the 220s.
I don’t really know what to do. Well, I do. Just not stop what I’m doing, but in reality, I’m too weak for it. I’m constantly anxious and depressed and stressed about shit and while maybe going for a walk will make me feel a little better, eating makes me feel a lot better. Mentally, my entire day just revolves around food. Despite sleeping regular hours and being on the cpap now, I still feel like a complete pile of shit every morning and usually the only thing eventually pulling me out of bed before I absolutely have to is breakfast. Soon as I’m done with that, I’m counting the hours until lunch, then dinner, and then if I’ve hit my calorie cap for the day I may as well just go to sleep so I can get breakfast.
Another thing I just don’t understand about myself is that I would have hoped that after my increasing health problems, shrinking amount of clothes I can fit into, and just generally hating looking at myself, some level of self-preservation would kick in and I would have at least a small level of motivation to fix my shit, but instead I just get the opposite: more stress and anxiety which just means I want to eat. I try guilting myself by imagining what would happen if I died, what my husband would have to do with me gone, my parents burying me, etc. and not even that shit works.
Sorry for the bitchy rant. I do want to lose weight, but fuck me, I just can’t seem to get myself to do it and it just adds to my shit mood and I know eventually it’s probably just going to kill me early. Maybe I should try something else, but I have no clue what.
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For me eating actual food and a exercising had massive benefits, but not as much as I expected for weight loss. What really sealed the deal with intermittent fasting, that made me lose weight fairly quick. Now, when I gain a few kg, I just go 20-4 a while and it works.
It's not even hard.
 
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For me eating actual food and a exercising had massive benefits, but not as much as I expected for weight loss. What really sealed the deal with intermittent fasting, that made me lose weight fairly quick. Now, when I gain a few kg, I just go 20-4 a while and it works.
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Well, let's be fair here

Intermittent fasting fucking SUCKS, the first time you do it.

After that though, yes, it's super easy. Once your body realizes it's not gonna die if you don't eat something every 3 hours, it completely changes the world for you. The fattest people I know do nothing but graze all day long.
 
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Well, let's be fair here

Intermittent fasting fucking SUCKS, the first time you do it.

After that though, yes, it's super easy. Once your body realizes it's not gonna die if you don't eat something every 3 hours, it completely changes the world for you. The fattest people I know do nothing but graze all day long.
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I've been doing this for general health because my blood pressure was through the roof due to job stress and I just felt I needed a reset. I rarely ate breakfast other than shitty granola bar during first meeting of the day, so giving up shitty lunch sandwich I crushed under an ice pack wasn't really hard.

Coffee was the hardest part. It took me literally 4-5 months to get over caffeine, despite "medical wisdom" saying like 2 weeks. I wasn't even a heavy coffee drinker, just consistently one large iced coffee every morning for the last two decades.
 
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I've been doing this for general health because my blood pressure was through the roof due to job stress and I just felt I needed a reset.


Coffee was the hardest part. It took me literally 4-5 months to get over caffeine, despite "medical wisdom" saying like 2 weeks. I wasn't even a heavy coffee drinker, just consistently one large iced coffee every morning for the last two decades.
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I think it's different for every situation (not even every person). So, I've been a caffeine junkie my entire adult life. I worked overnights for 18 years so my kids never had to spend a day in daycare, so I'd work from 10-8, then stay up until 4-5pm, catch a nap and then go to work. That kinda schedule for an extended period of time requires A LOT of caffeine to function, especially if you don't use nicotine too. Sometimes it was to the point where if I slept for too long (and by too long, we're talking 9 hours), I'd get headaches from caffeine withdrawal. So I was pretty well entrenched in it. Then my marriage fell apart and I ended up spending 4 days in jail at the apex, and if you don't have someone on the outside putting cash into an account for you, there's zero fucking caffeine available there. No coffee, no soda, nothing. I had exactly zero withdrawal symptoms there, and it was kinda shocking because my entire life was falling apart and I'd expect there to be some issues, but no... nothing. Any other time I tried to quit, it was a pretty big ordeal though.
 
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I think it's different for every situation (not even every person). So, I've been a caffeine junkie my entire adult life. I worked overnights for 18 years so my kids never had to spend a day in daycare, so I'd work from 10-8, then stay up until 4-5pm, catch a nap and then go to work. That kinda schedule for an extended period of time requires A LOT of caffeine to function, especially if you don't use nicotine too. Sometimes it was to the point where if I slept for too long (and by too long, we're talking 9 hours), I'd get headaches from caffeine withdrawal. So I was pretty well entrenched in it. Then my marriage fell apart and I ended up spending 4 days in jail at the apex, and if you don't have someone on the outside putting cash into an account for you, there's zero fucking caffeine available there. No coffee, no soda, nothing. I had exactly zero withdrawal symptoms there, and it was kinda shocking because my entire life was falling apart and I'd expect there to be some issues, but no... nothing. Any other time I tried to quit, it was a pretty big ordeal though.
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Oh fuck yea. A buddy and I spent the weekend in jail a handful of years ago for Drunk in Public. Friday night to Monday morning. That caffeine withdrawal is fucking brutal. As nasty as that fucking concrete was, I didnt care - I was laying my head straight on that shit because anything cold made it feel better. Nurse gave me like two low strength Tylenol to help. Lady, give me a fucking BC powder, a fucking cup of Tea, anything with some fucking caffeine! I've done all kinds of drugs and never, ever, got any withdrawal symptoms. But Caffeine? That fucking shit is brutal. I barely drink anything caffeinated now, much less anything with sugar, and I have absolutely zero problems "getting going" in the morning. But my diet is kind of controlled and predictable, so that could help.

Just general advice for anyone -
Going to cut here in a week or so to get ready for Summer. Im shaving off ~200 calories from a total of whats been mathed out at ~2380 a day. I workout 4-6 days a week for reference. You guys doing your fasting and stuff, Im sure that has benefits. But there is just no way around it - counting calories is the most basic science to the entire structure of losing weight. Easiest way to keep track of it is meal planning, which is going to be monotonous and boring. But, it works and its why so many of us do it. I put on some weight in my past relationship and when that relationship failed, obviously I set a path back to normalcy for me.

Keto works to a point, because, in my opinion, you "stop yourself up" with all that shit and that feeling ends up equating itself to you being full. Never mind getting rid of sugar and carbs cuts out 98% of junk food. But as soon as you "quit" keto, and go back to your regular diet, your bloating and digestive issues clear up and now that feeling is never there so you eat more and gain that weight back all too quickly. So if you want to start with Keto, thats fine - but transition yourself into counting calories so your stomach gets small as your digestive tract gets healthy again.
 
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When I want to stop coffee for a while, I just go decaffeinated for 2 weeks, then stop, the decaffeinated is enough for me to not get the headaches, and is low enough to not have it either when completely stopping.
 
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Koushirou said:
I’m unfortunately pretty much friendless, both online and off (which, while it hasn’t really bothered the past few years, lately it’s been starting to get to me). Husband unfortunately has the same problems with weight, only he has a much shittier day-to-day life than I do, so it’s even harder for him. Best I’ve got for outside motivation is competing with my brother through our Apple fitness and getting his workout notifications.

The trap bar sounds easy enough, but my right arm has been shot for months after waking up with the circulation cut off and it’s now weak enough that brushing my hair is both difficult and exhausting. My doctor just left her practice and earliest I can see my new doctor is…October. Could look into getting some little baby dumbells at least, since I have to hope even lifting some little 5lbers is better than nothing.
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Oh fuck yea. A buddy and I spent the weekend in jail a handful of years ago for Drunk in Public. Friday night to Monday morning. That caffeine withdrawal is fucking brutal. As nasty as that fucking concrete was, I didnt care - I was laying my head straight on that shit because anything cold made it feel better. Nurse gave me like two low strength Tylenol to help. Lady, give me a fucking BC powder, a fucking cup of Tea, anything with some fucking caffeine! I've done all kinds of drugs and never, ever, got any withdrawal symptoms. But Caffeine? That fucking shit is brutal. I barely drink anything caffeinated now, much less anything with sugar, and I have absolutely zero problems "getting going" in the morning. But my diet is kind of controlled and predictable, so that could help.

Just general advice for anyone -
Going to cut here in a week or so to get ready for Summer. Im shaving off ~200 calories from a total of whats been mathed out at ~2380 a day. I workout 4-6 days a week for reference. You guys doing your fasting and stuff, Im sure that has benefits. But there is just no way around it - counting calories is the most basic science to the entire structure of losing weight. Easiest way to keep track of it is meal planning, which is going to be monotonous and boring. But, it works and its why so many of us do it. I put on some weight in my past relationship and when that relationship failed, obviously I set a path back to normalcy for me.

Keto works to a point, because, in my opinion, you "stop yourself up" with all that shit and that feeling ends up equating itself to you being full. Never mind getting rid of sugar and carbs cuts out 98% of junk food. But as soon as you "quit" keto, and go back to your regular diet, your bloating and digestive issues clear up and now that feeling is never there so you eat more and gain that weight back all too quickly. So if you want to start with Keto, thats fine - but transition yourself into counting calories so your stomach gets small as your digestive tract gets healthy again.
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I've never been convinced by full time keto, I don't think it's natural for most people, unless you're from an eskimo tribe or something. Sure low carb, like around 50-100 g a day, from actual fruits only and not refined shit. But going actual keto long term when healthy, I'm skeptical, and I think all studies show that mediterranean diet is just better all around.
 
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