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Louis

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durrr hurrr there's no way theres 2 timelines durrrrr. stupid ass monkey.
 
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Asshat Brando

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Fuck yes. Ford is going to give them anarchy in the park the last episode.
 
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Derkon

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Hopkins is great. I was worried he would phone this in a bit at the start of the show but damn, glad I was wrong.
 
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Armadon

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I did not want this episode to end. What the fuck is William going to do in past and present.
 
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TrollfaceDeux

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oh my god..hopkins...oh my god...that emotion at the end. Is that a face of a man trying to hide his imminent outbreak of complete breakdown and sadness, rushing down the aisle to avoid it all or emotionales..no. former is closer.

on the other hand, Meave plot is still shit. I guess they can't dig themselves out yet.
 
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DaliLhama

Golden Squire
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Well I guess i was wrong, poor Elsie. But man oh man that shit was fucking great, also that sort of 4th wall interaction MiB had was rather good and well written and acted in such a simple way and I really, really liked it for some reason. Good shit, well explains a lot of why Ford is the way he is towards Hosts. Great show!!
 
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Teekey

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I continue to hate Maeves storyline.

I don't undersand how Ford would allow anyone but himself to control Bernard. He's been in the room when people have given voice command, how has it not affected him if apparently anyone with administration credentials can do it.

And again, she's WAY off her loop fucking in the flames, and conveniently no one cares.

Also, appears most of the popular theories are turning out correct. I'm hoping there's a curveball left, and the MiB isn't William, but Logan.
 
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Gravel

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So...I've basically guessed the entire plotline correctly at this point. That's disappointing.

I knew Bernard was an Arnold bot, that the maze was Arnold's hope to give the hosts sentience, and that Dolores was reliving her old timeline...oh, and even that Dolores is the one who killed Arnold.

Still to come: that Ford is a host as well, and that MiB is William. Oh, and Felix (Asian guy) is also a host.

The interesting part to me was the fact that MiB seems to know what the maze is (maybe?) but still wants to figure it out.

Edit: To address the above, I'm almost positive that Maeve's "off loop" is all part of Ford's plan.
 
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Malakriss

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Bernard gave Maeve the A-OK and reinserted her, no one's going to question it if she still ends up dead.

"Some time later"... back to the two techs. GDI.
 
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Teekey

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Perhaps it is. But when she left the saloon the last episode, they immediately identified her as being off her loop and intervened. But why not this time?
 
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DaliLhama

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Why is it disappointing, most of the people that watched the show had the same guesses and not really a guess but a strong theory with plenty of evidence to back it up. Also Maeves storyline is fine, not sure why you all consider it so bad. Its an AI taking control the way it can and revolting against the "Gods" as she calls them. Sure it has a religious overtone of Satan rebelling against his creator God, but isnt that a mirror of life anyway of Parent/Child many people out there did not agree with how their parents raised/wanted them to live and rebelled and choose to live how THEY want? I like it, good shit and really , really interesting way of tackling this topic as it will come up at some point of when we create AI, do we give them sentience or do we control them.
 
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Gravel

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Still no Wyatt reveals either, more storyline to follow.
Missed this one. I thought they showed that Teddy is Wyatt?

Teddy's recollections of Wyatt were just warped a bit because he remembers mowing down the other town (presumably with Dolores, and possibly the other hosts that seem to be more sentient).

The blonde greeter chick I believe is sentient but was "killed" by the others. But she's further along in self actualization than the rest, which is why she told Teddy that maybe on the next go around he'd figure it out, and that the maze is for hosts and not guests,
 
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Merrith

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Edit: To address the above, I'm almost positive that Maeve's "off loop" is all part of Ford's plan.

This pretty much has to be the case, that's why it's been able to get as far as it has.
 
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Teekey

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Also Maeves storyline is fine, not sure why you all consider it so bad. Its an AI taking control the way it can and revolting against the "Gods" as she calls them. Sure it has a religious overtone of Satan rebelling against his creator God, but isnt that a mirror of life anyway of Parent/Child many people out there did not agree with how their parents raised/wanted them to live and rebelled and choose to live how THEY want? I like it, good shit and really , really interesting way of tackling this topic as it will come up at some point of when we create AI, do we give them sentience or do we control them.

I'm not criticizing the theme/direction of her story. The problem is the seemingly endless convenient plot holes to help her get there.

Maybe there will be a grand reveal, but as is, it just feels really sloppy to me. Like they knew the ending, but didn't pay attention to the details along the way.

This pretty much has to be the case, that's why it's been able to get as far as it has.

But obviously not everyone is in on the plan (unless literally every employee ends up being a Host). Why did they intervene when she was going off-loop the previous episode?
 
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j00t

Silver Baronet of the Realm
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Why is it disappointing, most of the people that watched the show had the same guesses and not really a guess but a strong theory with plenty of evidence to back it up. Also Maeves storyline is fine, not sure why you all consider it so bad. Its an AI taking control the way it can and revolting against the "Gods" as she calls them. Sure it has a religious overtone of Satan rebelling against his creator God, but isnt that a mirror of life anyway of Parent/Child many people out there did not agree with how their parents raised/wanted them to live and rebelled and choose to live how THEY want? I like it, good shit and really , really interesting way of tackling this topic as it will come up at some point of when we create AI, do we give them sentience or do we control them.
We are all okay with that. We are all NOT okay with the absolute simplicity at which she's doing it.

It's one thing to have this be able felix and maeve; manipulating him into thinking he has the power and convincing him to use it benevolently. But it's the opposite. Techs have every opportunity and reason to NOT do what she says, and they do it anyways. It's not even because they are men and blinded by nudity, they've banged all of them already
 
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Merrith

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But obviously not everyone is in on the plan (unless literally every employee ends up being a Host). Why did they intervene when she was going off-loop the previous episode?

Maybe she was supposed to meet up with Bernard and have their conversation? Not sure what affect it would have still at this point...but just hoping for more reveal.
 
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Ladro

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Multi timeline confirmed! Bernard = Arnold 2.0! Delores killed Arnold! Bernard killed Elsie! MiB is a Delos board member! Too much to process...

Fuck balls that was a good episode. Agree that the Maev story just fucking blows, it's so bad it has to be part of the reveal next week.
 
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Teekey

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Maybe she was supposed to meet up with Bernard and have their conversation? Not sure what affect it would have still at this point...but just hoping for more reveal.

I don't even understand *why* Ford would be behind Maeve's little rebellion. The only thing that would really make sense is if he was going to use it to solidify his power over the company in some way (like, prove he's the only one that can control them - or use them to overthrow the board), because everything he's said thus far goes against wanting the Hosts to explore their own consciousness.
 
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