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Like I said I understand that in very populated areas. San Antonio is freaking huge and spread out, but people have decided they rather have upteen upgrades and a 4,500 square foot house on a 8,000 square foot lot. That's fine. Just don't understand the people who can't see the flip side of buying the same price house at 2,000-2,500 square foot house on 1/2 an acre to an acre.

Of course when I came down for an interview the president of the company said there's a house about 1/2 mile away from the office for rent. Great I'll go look at it, it was $13k a month. I passed, nice house tho but they wouldn't do anything less than a year lease.

Company is providing housing for now till I decide what to do. It's a nice setup, they're billed as luxury apartnments which seems like a stretch tho. I guess it depends on your definition of luxury.

Area is growing I guess from the overflow of Austin tech industry. One side of the little burgs city limits borders San Antonio. I looked it up and 10 years ago the population was 756 people, 10 years later it was 25,000 people.

Speak of Maseratis earlier, the guy 2 spots down in my parking area there also drives one. I went to a self serve car wash to get a bunch of junk off my truck after it rained and I had drive out in the brush country. Guy next to me was washing a brand new Ferrari which seemed really odd at a self service "wand" type car wash. New world I guess.
 
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Borzak_sl said:
Like I said I understand that in very populated areas. San Antonio is freaking huge and spread out, but people have decided they rather have upteen upgrades and a 4,500 square foot house on a 8,000 square foot lot. That's fine. Just don't understand the people who can't see the flip side of buying the same price house at 2,000-2,500 square foot house on 1/2 an acre to an acre.

Of course when I came down for an interview the president of the company said there's a house about 1/2 mile away from the office for rent. Great I'll go look at it, it was $13k a month. I passed, nice house tho but they wouldn't do anything less than a year lease.

Company is providing housing for now till I decide what to do. It's a nice setup, they're billed as luxury apartnments which seems like a stretch tho. I guess it depends on your definition of luxury.

Area is growing I guess from the overflow of Austin tech industry. One side of the little burgs city limits borders San Antonio. I looked it up and 10 years ago the population was 756 people, 10 years later it was 25,000 people.

Speak of Maseratis earlier, the guy 2 spots down in my parking area there also drives one. I went to a self serve car wash to get a bunch of junk off my truck after it rained and I had drive out in the brush country. Guy next to me was washing a brand new Ferrari which seemed really odd at a self service "wand" type car wash. New world I guess.
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I gotta agree. I don't understand how people can have a house above 2000 square feet unless they have countless crotchfruit. Disagree on the land... why the fuck would you want that much?

My wife and I want to move into downtown Boston eventually and just have a 1000-1500 square foot condo which is MORE than enough for us.

Seriously just need 2 Bedrooms, 2 Bathrooms, Living Room and Kitchen. Second bedroom is just for the eventual crotchfruit. Kid will go to private school as Boston's schools are trash (read: Still better then the majority of the US) unless you can get into Boston Latin.
 
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Well ya 4000sqft is ridiculous unless you have like 4 kids. 1200 seems to be perfect for 1 kid and a dedicated office.
 
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Meh kid ruins everything, dont do it. Use that second bed room as an office.
 
Vinen

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wormie_sl said:
Meh kid ruins everything, dont do it. Use that second bed room as an office.
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Thats what my wives parents are for.

One of our options is to send the Kid to Shanghai to live with their Grandparents. My wife a China, PRC citizen so it wouldn't be an issue at all ;3

Education in the US is such trash no-adays. SO MANY FUCKING UNIQUE SNOWFLAKES.
 
Noodleface

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Different strokes for different folks, I would never want to live in the city and not have a yard.

Our house is only 1500 sq ft with 1/4 acre and it's perfect for now. I'd imagine in a few years we'd be looking to upgrade if we have more than the one kid.
 
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Vinen_sl said:
Thats what my wives parents are for.

One of our options is to send the Kid to Shanghai to live with their Grandparents. My wife a China, PRC citizen so it wouldn't be an issue at all ;3

Education in the US is such trash no-adays. SO MANY FUCKING UNIQUE SNOWFLAKES.
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For now my wife is just as repulsed by the idea of kids as i am. Lets hope it keeps up. Fuck kids, we make a bunch of money and do whatever the fuck we want. #winning.
 
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Vinen_sl said:
Thats what my wives parents are for.

One of our options is to send the Kid to Shanghai to live with their Grandparents. My wife a China, PRC citizen so it wouldn't be an issue at all ;3

Education in the US is such trash no-adays. SO MANY FUCKING UNIQUE SNOWFLAKES.
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You know, I'm ordinarily not going to suggest that China would be a good option for anything, but this might not be a bad idea. Especially if you can teach them english like a native along with the Chinese education and time spent in the US learning US culture.
 
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Cad_sl said:
You know, I'm ordinarily not going to suggest that China would be a good option for anything, but this might not be a bad idea. Especially if you can teach them english like a native along with the Chinese education and time spent in the US learning US culture.
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That's the plan. When people are raised with two completely opposite culture it really opens them up. Same reason travel opens eyes.

It shocks me now when I hear people spout the shit the US Media barfs up about China without actually understanding the country, it's history and what it's currently like.
 
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Vinen_sl said:
That's the plan. When people are raised with two completely opposite culture it really opens them up. Same reason travel opens eyes.

It shocks me now when I hear people spout the shit the US Media barfs up about China without actually understanding the country, it's history and what it's currently like.
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There are a lot of great things about China, if you can take advantage of those without the negatives thats best of both worlds.
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
Different strokes for different folks, I would never want to live in the city and not have a yard.

Our house is only 1500 sq ft with 1/4 acre and it's perfect for now. I'd imagine in a few years we'd be looking to upgrade if we have more than the one kid.
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I'd never want to live in a major city. I've never understood the appeal. Right now it is just my wife and myself and we have ~1900 sq ft and I probably wouldn't want to go much lower than that. Luckily my office is northwest of the city so I can live in the suburbs like I want and be only 5 minutes from work.
 
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Borzak_sl said:
Right now I live about 5 minutes or less from the city limits of the 7th most populated city in the US. Not exactly in the middle of nowhere.
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It's disingenuous to claim San Antonio is some bustling metropolis. Because more than half of the population of the MSA lives in SA itself, the city does have a large population, even larger than the city of Dallas; however the San Antonio MSA only has around 2.4 million people, while the DFW MSA has 6.9 million and Houston has 6.8 million, each close to triple San Antonio. DFW and Houston are the 4th and 5th most populous MSA's in the US (behind NY, LA and Chicago) San Antonio is 25th.
 
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I think when we as normal people think middle class, we really mean upper middle class.
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My fiancee and I have a household income about 25% above the "upper limit" for our state on that table, and we are very definitely middle class. If it were individual incomes, that would make a lot more sense.
 
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That study needs to be more localized to be of any use. I'm pretty sure "upper class" where I live(Ithaca) is vastly different than most of the area surrounding NYC, yet still the same state. Maybe if they normalized it by COLA and city size and then subdivided each state by local population, you could get a useful chart.
 
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Vinen_sl said:
My wife and I want to move into downtown Boston eventually and just have a 1000-1500 square foot condo which is MORE than enough for us.
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Wife and I just did this, only center city Philly. We kept our house and rented a ~1k square foot apartment to see how we liked it. Honestly we don't miss the space from the house at all, and are planning to buy a condo in town in the near future.

City life isn't for everyone obviously, but I absolutely love it. My commute went from over an hour to 3 minutes. Everything is in walking distance, the only time I drive a car is to go to the beach house. There were times this winter I wouldn't drive for a month, it was glorious.
 
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Borzak_sl said:
Non housing derail. Just saw this.

How much you have to earn to be considered middle class in every US state - Yahoo Finance

I want to know where you live in TX that $35k counts as middle class. I own land and a house in a very rural area in East, TX which is pretty damn poor and $35k isn't middle class there and it's probably in the bottom 10 of 250 TX counties.
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Notice these are averages for entire states so people living in boondocks bring the whole thing down. Looking at NY average of $57k i cant help but think how dumb that is. In NYC if you live on $57k a year for a household (which includes some kids on average) you are living behind a dumpster in an alley. Those numbers are silly.
 
Borzak

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wormie_sl said:
Notice these are averages for entire states so people living in boondocks bring the whole thing down. Looking at NY average of $57k i cant help but think how dumb that is. In NYC if you live on $57k a year for a household (which includes some kids on average) you are living behind a dumpster in an alley. Those numbers are silly.
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But like I said I own land and a house that came with it in what is probably the bottom 10 in TX and I still can't see that bottom number being middle class there. Maybe it's skewed by abentee landowners like myself I dunno. Maybe it's skewed by the number of retirees. The county has 1/2 the population it did 10+ years ago and is down to 7,000 for the entire county.

Maybe I have an unrealistc expectation of what is middle class.
 
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Would you guys take a 20% pay cut to work from home? No video conferencing or anything, could literally roll out of bed 5 minutes before start time and just go sit at my computer in my underwear all day. It's a 20% pay cut (not factoring in savings on gas, etc, just a pure 20% less salary)
 
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