What vehicle do you drive?

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Haus said:
What will happen is this...
  1. Full Self Driving will become realized.
  2. Insurance companies will note that in areas where all people are using it there are fewer accidents.
  3. Insurance companies will lobby so that ALL cars have to have it (at no point will this result in lower premiums, BTW)
  4. Government will be paid off
  5. All cars will have it
  6. Insurance will start to lobby that cars ONLY use self driving (Because MUH SAFETY!!!)
  7. Government will be paid off
  8. By around 2050-2060 cars won't have steering wheels except for antiques and classics.
  9. I will still be driving my 2017 Caddy....
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Burren said:
Here already, along with lane assist, speed warnings, and many other nanny-state bullshit requirements.
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Chevron decision and the Trump admin will thwart all of this for certain!
























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Burren said:
Here already, along with lane assist, speed warnings, and many other nanny-state bullshit requirements.
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Soon if you want real control of your vehicle you're going to have to be good with a pair of wire cutters and just lobotomize your car when you buy it.
 
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Haus said:
Soon if you want real control of your vehicle you're going to have to be good with a pair of wire cutters and just lobotomize your car when you buy it.
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If Dodge is any indication, the car will know if you don't have everything hooked up and fail to start/run. I've read that in order to replace the radio in a Dodge, you need to jump through a 1000 hoops, and it's been that way for 15 some years.

You will need to have the tools and knowhow to jailbreak then custom OS your car or be fucked.
 
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Burns said:
If Dodge is any indication, the car will know if you don't have everything hooked up and fail to start/run. I've read that in order to replace the radio in a Dodge, you need to jump through a 1000 hoops, and it's been that way for 15 some years.

You will need to have the tools and knowhow to jailbreak then custom OS your car or be fucked.
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Just gonna say.... I may or may not already be working on such a project for the Caddy "Cue" navigation/entertainment system.. ;)
The bitch runs android under the proverbial hood....

And in older built in computer nonsense... The original Ford Sync systems (like in my old mustang and my wife's Escape) both ran... wait for it... Windows 2003 CE edition.
 
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Haus said:
Soon if you want real control of your vehicle you're going to have to be good with a pair of wire cutters and just lobotomize your car when you buy it.
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Could be. But, all the cars on my list now are 2020 or older, so I’m good.
 
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Haus said:
Just gonna say.... I may or may not already be working on such a project for the Caddy "Cue" navigation/entertainment system.. ;)
The bitch runs android under the proverbial hood....

And in older built in computer nonsense... The original Ford Sync systems (like in my old mustang and my wife's Escape) both ran... wait for it... Windows 2003 CE edition.
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I knew the dude that took the sync UI from trash to its first “modern” revision… yes it was Microsoft’s at the time, CE still lives on as embedded. What’s funny is he was a M$ contractor not even a “real” employee and lead the UX lol

He works for Google currently.
 
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Siliconemelons said:
I knew the dude that took the sync UI from trash to its first “modern” revision… yes it was Microsoft’s at the time, CE still lives on as embedded. What’s funny is he was a M$ contractor not even a “real” employee and lead the UX lol

He works for Google currently.
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Yeah, I'm getting ready to buy 2-3 of the Caddy Cue systems off eBay and build a "hack and reverse engineer" lab to see if I can pop the boot loader and get my own build on them. But then I have to reverse out all the hardware hooks.

Then there's the whole separate thing in the Caddies which is the OnStar system which is how they actually monitor and report from inside the car (even if you don't have an OnStar subscription). But that can pretty much be neutered by popping one little removable chip.
 
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The challenge of autopilot isn't navigating roads, it's navigating people. What does autopilot do when that idiot in the next lane cuts you off? How does it tell he's going to do that before he does it? Humans have that ability, you can see when someone's going to do that... most of the time. Does autopilot? And that's just one example, as any driver knows there's myriad issues that human drivers face as a matter of course.

Then there's the problem of who's responsible when something bad happens. Is it the guy in the driver's seat? He points at the autopilot. Is it the other car? He points at HIS autopilot, or yours. Is it the manufacturer? He points at the driver for failing to monitor the autopilot. You must have failed, because a crash happened! The lawyers are going to be far more tempted to go after the manufacturer for these disputes rather than the drivers, because manufacturers have far deeper pockets. Until they're liable for every accident on the roads, that is.


If they can work out all these problems, hey great. But I'm never buying one, and I hope I don't live to see the phasing out of hydrocarbon fuels, because that is the last bastion of travel free from potential draconian control available to the non-elite of society.
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It's always the guy driving responsible, you have to click your way through so many waivers. But of course humans are shitty and will try to blame anyone but themselves.

I paid for autopilot, and if I could go back in time I would not do it again. The new Tesla's are on version 4 of the hardware driving Autopilot, mine is HW3. The latest build for HW4 people is actually pretty impressive. But for us older car scrubs, it keeps getting worse and worse. For some reason they take options away too, you used to be able to toggle a setting to minimize lane changes, so you can just shut off your brain and chill in the same lane. The summon feature has gotten worse each patch too, it's too dangerous to use now. But HW4 summon is pretty fast and accurate. Those of us who bought Autopilot, they will upgrade everyone to HW4 and all be on the same build. For how expensive it was to buy they had better lol.

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Siliconemelons said:
… i mean he also was like “you dont need radar! Only cameras!” For a few months.. wonder what they will do for those cars lol
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This is my least favorite part about our 2024 Model Y, also a bit salty that the 2025 update has that camera in the bumper. The car is to conservative when parking, "Watch out, you're getting close... too close, stop!". I'll get out and look, a good 12" of room.
 
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Also... Tesla... send some money to Nissan or something and get 360* view... sheesh you have the cameras all over the darn place - but still no 360* view
 
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BrutulTM said:
But seriously, you don't need a pickup truck if you are even thinking about a Ridgeline. As others have said, you can get a very safe and useable bike rack for any type of car for a couple of hundred bucks, and if you need to haul a bunch of shit home from Home Depot, just rent their pickup truck. It's a full size flatbed and it's like $20 an hour. It will save you money in the long run guaranteed.

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For sure I don't need a truck. It's a combination of the convenience of being able to throw stuff in the bed without internal worrying about internal damage/mess and being ready to move on from the 4Runner. I'm certainly not going to go out and drop $70k+ for something new and full size.

I'm pretty sure the majority of trucks purchased aren't used for 'truck' stuff in the same way that most people get a vehicle that has more functionality/power/features than they need. People should drive what they want, I don't give a shit.
 
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ToeMissile said:
This is my least favorite part about our 2024 Model Y, also a bit salty that the 2025 update has that camera in the bumper. The car is to conservative when parking, "Watch out, you're getting close... too close, stop!". I'll get out and look, a good 12" of room.
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I think you can adjust the sensitivity or how far out it starts warning.
 
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