Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard

Requiem said:

There"s a big difference between fact and coincidence.

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You are really going to throw up the coincidence card here?

You want the timeline? From a VERY trusted source, and no, Ravenn, it isn"t a disgruntled ex employee like your friends at sigil have told you. It"s someone working there NOW.

Here it is, in a nice easy to read format:

Why doesn"t Brad have his own forums? Because he can direct the traffic to fan sites with ad streaming revenue and make money off it if he has a vested interest.

A shitton of Vanguard threads (Some of which now that have been outright deleted) posting about negative experiences of Vanguard were rickshawed.

I posted some relatively VERY tame facts about how the post 35+ game is not even finished yet, with most of it not even coming until mid april when they plan their 2nd art asset patch, because even the art for most of these areas isn"t even fucking done yet.

Rav tells me too cool it and stay out of VG threads.

I PM"d her back. Here is what I wrote.

WHAT?? You have to be kidding me? The game is a fucking shitheap that should have never been released. Is this a place where people can state their opinion or is it now a glorified ad site to attract dollars?

This is fucking ridiculous.

Nothing about this game is even worth a damn thread. The 40+ content isn"t even IN THE GAME. The bugs are atrocious. You have people here who work for the company saying the game is quality and posing as actual users. How about we shut those retards down and start using this site to bring in quality posters who can express their opinion without some red handed hammer coming down because this place has turned into a glorfied revenue stream.

I just got a PM from a guy who works at Microsoft. Want to read it?

Here it is.

"I"ve been lurking on this forum for years. Since I work in the games biz I never felt right posting, but it is a great way to gauge the pulse of the MMO hardcore. I was on the MS side of the VG trainwreck and I have to congradulate you for getting to the core issues. So much so, that I think you must work for someone who makes games.

In any event, Sigil couldn"t hit a milestone that they defined themselves, let alone one we asked them to hit. And the responsibility for that lays firmly at the feet of the annointed (read Brad for cultivating the "we made EQ so shut the fuck up" culture and Jeff for being a world class enabler and inept project manager).

For 15 years I"ve made great, successful, critically acclaimed games and I"ve never encountered a developer more arrogant, dismissive, and incompetent at the same time. Thank god for folks like you who tell it how it is when NDAs prevent those in the know from sharing our insights."

Show that to the powers at be like Tyen the wonder wallet and let me know whats more important.

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After this I was banned. I couldn"t even access my PM"s.

Brad immediately goes on a posting tirade with more fluff than a pile of down comforters stacked 70 miles, all leaking with flat out conjecture, spin, and lies.

I get unbanned.

Brad vanishes.

You, of course and I wouldn"t blame you, have a vested interest in traffic here. Developers threatening to pull the plug on posting here, which has been threatened by Rav"s friends many times in the past - she has told me about this - (For example, when I would post something under NDA, yet workers for Sigil would break NDA with positive and not take the negative and try to get me banned because they were friends with her). Kudos to her however. Because she told them to stick it.

For a while.

Why did that tune change? At the same time negative VG threads were getting rickshawed, I got banned, McQuaid starts posting en masse, and grassroots was flying around here like mad?

Coincidence my ass.

Requiem said:

And, let"s just assume that you were actually banned because of some sekrit shit between Ravvenn and somebody at Sigil - During the conversation I had with her before I originally posted, I made it very clear that I will tolerate no such thing, and said that her and I had major problems if I find out that"s the case.

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If that is the case, and you do not know about it, whether it was her or someone else, yes you do have some problems.

You are an intelligent guy. Do the math on this.

And come on. This site gets more traffic than most any other MMORPG forum and you know it.

Andric d"Regor said:

so utnayen gets a message from random_user#1201 who happens to work for MS and be a top line games developer with acclaimed titles under their belt who shit talks with the best soit must all be true...

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If you even knew 10% of the people in this industry you would find this is pretty much public knowledge at this point on what a lot of games developers think of this guy.

Even SOE people cannot stand the guy.

Requiem said:

Problems that are easily fixed. The solution can be measured in mouseclicks, and counted just with the use of the fingers on two hands.

However, I don"t buy any of it. You spew random shit hoping to hit your mark on one of them. So far aparently Tyen is funding the Uberguilds Network, Brad is posting on fohguild.org and getting a cut of our leet moneys, fohguild.org is the largest site on the Uberguilds Network, let alone the MMO industry(anybody heard of silkyvenom.com, the actual vanguard affiliate site where you can go to read about 50x as much negative shit about Vanguard as you can here, and happens to be much larger than fohguild.org at this moment in terms of page views and reach?), Brad said that he wouldn"t post here unless YOU got banned, hell I don"t even know what else. You say all of this outlandish shit that is just outright wrong, and now you"re clinging to the only thing that"s left, which is purely circumstantial, and arguing that since it was the best thing that your net dragged in?

Please... You do the math dude.

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The fact is you have a vested interest in making sure that shit doesn"t get to the top of the water - IF you know about it in the first place. Tyen is tied into Silky Venom hard core. Christ, Silky Venom was the name of the damn sigil employee guild.

You need a fucking calculator.