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Rabbit_Games

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Microsoft is hardcore pushing to force the Everything In The Cloud concept- including Operating System.

I’m staying on 10 until they pry it from cold, dead fingers.
 
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Kajiimagi

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Why is 24h2 "garbage"? I'm on the latest version and I haven't noticed anything. I mean, it's shit, but it's always been shit.
Straight from this article right here: New Windows 11 24H2 bug list: 12 reasons to avoid this update for now



1. Conflict with Ubisoft games​

2. Auto HDR feature conflict with games​

3. Conflict with Easy Anti-Cheat online gaming app​

4. Blue screens in other instances​

5. Disappearing mouse pointer​

6. Internet connection issues​

7. Time zone glitch​

8. Broken clipboard history​

9. Network sharing doesn't work​


tl;dr shit needs to bake longer, like every other software product released this year.
 
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Control

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Microsoft is hardcore pushing to force the Everything In The Cloud concept- including Operating System.

I’m staying on 10 until they pry it from cold, dead fingers.
I've probably bitched about it before, but to me it feels shitty in the same way that Win8 felt shitty. It feels like they're a cheap, tablet-first skin on top of a real OS.
All the tech companies are just biding their time until we die off and no one remembers what real computers were.
 
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Lumi

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24H2 completely fucked my browser and I immediately rolled back and it was fine again. That update is hot trash.
 

GuardianX

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My windows 11 "upgrade" lasted all of 1 minute before I hit rollback. It seems made for some type of "live service"/streaming element that I just have no use for. None of the UI applies to me or anything I do with my PC. It's designed for someone else who is making use of the GUI.

Microsoft does keep a record of every opt-out. Hopefully there are millions of people who opted out and we get a Windows 10 version of Windows 12 when the time comes.

My windows 11 deploy has been AMAZING...

I've seen more BSOD's in the roughly 1 month of time on the same hardware i've been running 10 on for years than all of the years of 10 combined.

All of the complaints I had in 10 are made infinitely more obnoxious too.

I'm going to wipe, "downgrade", and get infinitely better results.
 
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My windows 11 deploy has been AMAZING...

I've seen more BSOD's in the roughly 1 month of time on the same hardware i've been running 10 on for years than all of the years of 10 combined.

All of the complaints I had in 10 are made infinitely more obnoxious too.

I'm going to wipe, "downgrade", and get infinitely better results.

It's predatory how they offer the free "upgrade" when the average consumer can't vet the product before installing it.

I think Windows 10 will certainly have a longer run than Windows XP in terms of how long people are going to be able to cling onto it. But not sure how much longer. Just hoping for a Windows 12 edition to be available to buy that's an improved 10 at some point.
 
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Last January at CES, Microsoft Chief Marketing Officer Yusuf Mehdi declared 2024 the "year of the AI PC." And whether you believe that prediction came true or not—many new PCs come with AI-accelerating neural processing units (NPUs) onboard, but far from all of them—you can't deny that Microsoft did try very hard to make it happen.

This year, Mehdi is back with another prediction: 2025 will be "the year of the Windows 11 PC refresh." This year is also, not coincidentally, the year that most Windows 10 PCs will stop receiving new security updates.

Mehdi's post includes few, if any, new announcements, but it does set the tone for how Microsoft is handling the sunsetting of Windows 10, attempting to strike a balance between carrot and stick. The carrots include Windows 11's new features (both AI and otherwise) and the performance, security, and battery life benefits inherent to brand-new PC hardware. The stick is that Windows 10 support ends in October 2025, and Microsoft is not interested in extending that date for the general public or in expanding official Windows 11 support to older PCs.
They have that flipped, because the stick is Windows 11 and its new "features," and the carrot is not having to deal with Microsoft's unvetted, god forsaken updates.

The only hope for a Windows 11 refresh is if they just re-release a stripped down Windows 10 and change the number.
Windows 10 users urged to upgrade to avoid "security fiasco"
Cybersecurity firm ESET is urging Windows 10 users to upgrade to Windows 11 or Linux to avoid a "security fiasco" as the 10-year-old operating system nears the end of support in October 2025.

"It's five minutes to twelve to avoid a security fiasco for 2025," explains ESET security expert Thorsten Urbanski.

"We strongly advise all users not to wait until October, but to switch to Windows 11 immediately or choose an alternative operating system if their device cannot be updated to the latest Windows operating system. Otherwise, users expose themselves to considerable security risks and make themselves vulnerable to dangerous cyber attacks and data loss."
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I'm going to be getting a new computer ready soon, but I'm probably going to just use Windows 10, "security" be damned.

At this point, Microsoft themselves have proven that there's a far, far greater chance that Windows 11 will brick itself randomly and risk your entire computer without any hypotheticals or fearmongering required.

I've already had enough of Windows 11 setting up my mother's new computer that had it installed, and the hoops I had to go through just to make it look usable. I mean, how is a middle aged or even older person who finally got used to Windows 10 supposed to use this Idiocracy UI?

Microsoft is so tone deaf that they'd rather shove a bunch of braindead "AI" into their already bloated mess instead of backtracking on all of the moronic design choices they've made to the detriment of 99% of their users. Windows 11 is like the AAA game developer equivalent of an OS that is chasing some "modern audience" that would never use their products in the first place other than by force.
 
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Mist

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Definitely don't try to play poe2 with 24h2 installed. Crash city.
Switch to Vulcan, it's fine. Also judging an OS by an early access game is fucking stupid, PoE2 crashes a lot for everyone.

I'm on 2H24 and I got one weird BSoD so far, and 4-5 PoE crashes before switching to Vulcan (only once afterward.)

Windows 11 has a lot of problems, but it's got a lot of improvements too.
 

Janx

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Switch to Vulcan, it's fine. Also judging an OS by an early access game is fucking stupid, PoE2 crashes a lot for everyone.

I'm on 2H24 and I got one weird BSoD so far, and 4-5 PoE crashes before switching to Vulcan (only once afterward.)

Windows 11 has a lot of problems, but it's got a lot of improvements too.
Its not a graphics API issue its something with how 24h2 interfaces with CPU multithreading. If you're running an Intel CPU that may be why you don't see the issue. It hard locks your PC unless you use some method of freeing up a few cores while running POE2. The game will still crash but not take the whole system down with it.

 
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Mist

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Its not a graphics API issue its something with how 24h2 interfaces with CPU multithreading. If you're running an Intel CPU that may be why you don't see the issue. It hard locks your PC unless you use some method of freeing up a few cores while running POE2. The game will still crash but not take the whole system down with it.

do AMD CPUs with more than 8 cores have this problem?