Captain Suave
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On the bright side, Im 90% sure I tore my meniscus on Monday
I've had two meniscus repairs and four menisectomies. Happy to answer any questions if you have them.
On the bright side, Im 90% sure I tore my meniscus on Monday
I've had two meniscus repairs and four menisectomies. Happy to answer any questions if you have them.
Gentlemen:
You mean like a figure 8 that you would attach a top to an apron?Whelp, I got a commission on a map table that I'm going to have to send to the other side of the country. Now I've gotta figure out how to do something, within my skill level, to let's me ship the table with the legs off. It seems like the 45degree brackets that attach to the apron slot + one long bolt into the leg is the norm. At least in stuff ive bought and assembled. I don't really want to attempt that yet.
Long story short, the legs are 3in X 3in square. I'm guessing there's some sort of bracket/flange that I can just bolt to the top of the leg, then bolt flush with the bottom of the table? I've seen them for 2x4s, but I assume this is a common furniture bracket too.
I can visualize this damn thing, but don't know how to describe it. A plate that fits between two pieces. Outter flange screws to one piece second, after the inner screws are put into the other piece.
I'm guessing there's some sort of bracket/flange that I can just bolt to the top of the leg, then bolt flush with the bottom of the table? I've seen them for 2x4s, but I assume this is a common furniture bracket too.
Gotta be honest I'm not quite sure why you would think a kerf mount bracket would be bad. In my mind it's the simplest since you can index once cut 8 times. They also make a surface mount version if you need to assemble the apron first for some reason.Whelp, I got a commission on a map table that I'm going to have to send to the other side of the country. Now I've gotta figure out how to do something, within my skill level, to let's me ship the table with the legs off. It seems like the 45degree brackets that attach to the apron slot + one long bolt into the leg is the norm. At least in stuff ive bought and assembled. I don't really want to attempt that yet.
Long story short, the legs are 3in X 3in square. I'm guessing there's some sort of bracket/flange that I can just bolt to the top of the leg, then bolt flush with the bottom of the table? I've seen them for 2x4s, but I assume this is a common furniture bracket too.
I can visualize this damn thing, but don't know how to describe it. A plate that fits between two pieces. Outter flange screws to one piece second, after the inner screws are put into the other piece.
Alright alright alright, maybe I'll give it a go.Gotta be honest I'm not quite sure why you would think a kerf mount bracket would be bad. In my mind it's the simplest since you can index once cut 8 times. They also make a surface mount version if you need to assemble the apron first for some reason.
Having tried several other leg attachment schemes, the reality is if you want free legs without bracing a corner bracket provides 3 points of contact which tightens itself square if you do it right. I've tried attaching to apron, mounting directly to top structure with 4x4 bracket, etc. They just never quite turn out as stable and always flex.
Just my 2c trying random things on bench and table projects. There's a reason almost every dining table uses them.
Like this, correct?Gotta be honest I'm not quite sure why you would think a kerf mount bracket would be bad. In my mind it's the simplest since you can index once cut 8 times. They also make a surface mount version if you need to assemble the apron first for some reason.
Having tried several other leg attachment schemes, the reality is if you want free legs without bracing a corner bracket provides 3 points of contact which tightens itself square if you do it right. I've tried attaching to apron, mounting directly to top structure with 4x4 bracket, etc. They just never quite turn out as stable and always flex.
Just my 2c trying random things on bench and table projects. There's a reason almost every dining table uses them.
Yes but I would go with the heavier duty ones with double bolts if your table is going to be used. Depends on weight, purpose, design, etc. of course.
What kind of clamp/jig/vice do I need to drill those holes for the bolts on the legs?Gotta be honest I'm not quite sure why you would think a kerf mount bracket would be bad. In my mind it's the simplest since you can index once cut 8 times. They also make a surface mount version if you need to assemble the apron first for some reason.
Having tried several other leg attachment schemes, the reality is if you want free legs without bracing a corner bracket provides 3 points of contact which tightens itself square if you do it right. I've tried attaching to apron, mounting directly to top structure with 4x4 bracket, etc. They just never quite turn out as stable and always flex.
Just my 2c trying random things on bench and table projects. There's a reason almost every dining table uses them.
What kind of clamp/jig/vice do I need to drill those holes for the bolts on the legs?
I have a really, really shitty old drill press and I think I'm ready to upgrade at set myself up with a better drill setup. Since I'll also want to be able to drill holes on the end of table legs, I assume I want something that's bench-mounted with a "deck" (or whatever) that swivels out of the way? And put one of those machinists vice things on it, including rotating for 45d holes? whoo
In other news, I got back to work on the rolling lumber cart I started over the summer. Table saw is about the only thing I'm skittish around and I haven't even used the thing since I bought it almost 2 years ago, so I spent a long time with it yesterday. Definitely helped me make everything come together cleaner and tighter on the lumber cart and I got a lot more comfy using it.
Learning more and more, Bit by bit. I was thinking yesterday about how I use ~15 different pieces of software at work and I'd say that I'm a "master" of three of them. Knowing those pieces of software inside and out, and knowing how to use every tool in them for their intended purpose AND outside the box applications makes it so that I can quickly come up with ways to solve a problem in a few different ways. And it's easy for me because I know how to use the tools fully, but I help other people in the same software that are struggling with simple tasks.
Anyways, it was just a thought I had yesterday while working in the shop and realizing that figuring out different woodworking stuff is starting to get a little easier as I'm learning and practicing with all the different tools. I'm a long ways from being able to do all the stuff I want to do, but it was encouraging.
What kind of clamp/jig/vice do I need to drill those holes for the bolts on the legs?
I have a really, really shitty old drill press and I think I'm ready to upgrade at set myself up with a better drill setup. Since I'll also want to be able to drill holes on the end of table legs, I assume I want something that's bench-mounted with a "deck" (or whatever) that swivels out of the way? And put one of those machinists vice things on it, including rotating for 45d holes? whoo
In other news, I got back to work on the rolling lumber cart I started over the summer. Table saw is about the only thing I'm skittish around and I haven't even used the thing since I bought it almost 2 years ago, so I spent a long time with it yesterday. Definitely helped me make everything come together cleaner and tighter on the lumber cart and I got a lot more comfy using it.
Learning more and more, Bit by bit. I was thinking yesterday about how I use ~15 different pieces of software at work and I'd say that I'm a "master" of three of them. Knowing those pieces of software inside and out, and knowing how to use every tool in them for their intended purpose AND outside the box applications makes it so that I can quickly come up with ways to solve a problem in a few different ways. And it's easy for me because I know how to use the tools fully, but I help other people in the same software that are struggling with simple tasks.
Anyways, it was just a thought I had yesterday while working in the shop and realizing that figuring out different woodworking stuff is starting to get a little easier as I'm learning and practicing with all the different tools. I'm a long ways from being able to do all the stuff I want to do, but it was encouraging.
Thanks. Just spent a few hours watching randoem woodworking videos, including those corner mounts. Seems simple enough.
I like this setup too
Learned a few things I hadn't thought of, particularly that despite modern glues being stronger than the wood itself glue joints will make a board weaker than if it were solid exactly because the stiffness of the joint creates stress risers that cause the adjacent wood to fail. Also, clamping force is entirely overrated compared to curing time. Interesting stuff. (Some of the later experiments where the glue wasn't cured were dumb.)