WORLD CUP 2014 - BRAZIL
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Asshat Brando
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Its a really fine line as you don't want a defender to think they can get away with anything in the box as then it may be impossible to score. At the same time its tough to see a game end that way. Again though Mexico had plenty of time to build on their lead and instead chose not to.
You can complain about the ticky tac foul call all you want, but pointing out that at the end of the first half there was an obvious missed call that would have yielded the same result should even it out at least.
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Heartbreaking for Mexico. You could tell there was a bit of anxiety from the players during the last 8 minutes which is when Nederlands scored with a beautiful goal (reminds me of whenMaxi Rodriguez scored for Argentina against Mexico in 2006 with a beautiful goal) In my opinion, Herrera should have held on changing Dos Santos at least 10 more minutes where Mexico could have pushed the score even more, but I think he thought having the Holland team push for 30 minutes would break them due to the heat on the pitch.
BoldW
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Debatable, so in the end is the ref's call. Marquez was clearly going for the ball, his eyes never left it, it wasn't from behind or a reckless move.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afde...t_en_47379.pdf
Jovec
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My guess would be a "trip or attempt to trip an opponent" with intent judged as "careless" or possibly even "tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball" where intent doesn't matter. In both cases, the location of the foul dictates a PK. It's probably the former, and while I don't think it was "an attempt to trip," it was a "trip" and the rules don't specify what constitutes a trip (in this case, Robben's foot was stepped on which was sending him down, his flailing arms and legs notwithstanding).
It's the kind of foul what warrants a direct kick from outside the box as opposed to a PK, but the ref doesn't have that leeway.
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A keeper can already take a yellow for delay of game, which means that, in theory, he can be sent-off by accumulation of yellow cards. I have never seen that happen though.
Szlia
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Pretending that a foul was committed when none was is a foul. Exaggerating the effect of an existing foul is not.
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I like soccer and as a good cultured American I can see plainly that soccer really and truly is a relatively inferior sport compared to many others but I will give it this... the margins are usually so thin with games of 2-1, 1-0, 2-0, that you would think the underdogs would win more often than not but actually the superior team does tend to win despite the thin margins. It seems like it should be the other way around but the fact that it isn't, is a credit to the sport.
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Jovec
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My understanding is no, it is not technically a foul. There is a certain group of offenses for which the referee has to judge the intent of the player committing a foul, defined as careless (foul), reckless (yellow), and excessive (red). While it is not explicitly stated, presumably the intent can be judged as accidental or as part of the normal course of play, in other words, not a foul.
There are also classes of fouls that must be called regardless of intent.
In this case he was at least tripped. The more grievous offenses are when players literally are not even touched and then fall to the ground and writhe in pain.
I don't know shit about this sport but it seems like this is all due to how fucking hard it is to put together a goal. Tons of skill and some luck are involved, so the better team will usually create more opportunities and are able to finish a higher percentage of those opportunities so they end up winning more often than not.
Brb gotta iron my Cpt. Obvious cape.
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Flopping is only then a yellow card when there was no foul at all.
If there's a huge skill gap, the better team will run up the score. Trying to sit out a +1 lead is what happens on relatively even teams or slightly stronger opponents.
Carrying a +1 lead through a game against a much stronger opponent (like this year's CL Finals) almost never works.
Abefroman
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So do soccer fans find flopping needed because if you don't the other team will and will get the fouls and you wont? That foul seems to always come up in every sport. You have the foul is always a foul no matter what time of the game camp and the you don't call that shit then camp. Didn't have a dog in the fight but it almost seems fitting to lose like that when you don't play to win.
Dyvim
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Yeah he could get sent off by delay of game, but what would be the point? He would discuss and lament at the ref for 3 mins and take another 5 mins to get of the pitch, and on top of that a bench keeper has to get subbed for a field player taking yet even more time off the clock, delaying the game even further. I despise that shit, hand out penalties for that crap would crush it, its not like the refs arent bought allready anyway.
Far from an expert on the game here, but Mexico lost because of Mexico's coach. Watched the whole game and it was clear what his strategy was. You take your foot off the gas with a single goal lead? To me you never call off the dogs unless the game is a rout and you're trying to be respectful of your competition. 1-0 is not a rout, I don't care what sport it is.
Was it because the heat was destroying players and he had no choice? Maybe that's what I'm missing with my limited soccer knowledge.
Was it because the heat was destroying players and he had no choice? Maybe that's what I'm missing with my limited soccer knowledge.