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Speaking of LFR ever since they added the allied races plus all the new 110 boost. Holy shit is it bad, I mean LFR is normally dogshit but it has reached new levels of horrid, with people 80% of the group doing like 100k-200k dps, I am not even sure its worth taking fresh alts through it anymore really.

Another thing I am sure a few of you have noticed is since they added essences for Legion Heroics you have people trying to rush through as quickly as possible because they out gear the content to such a degree. I see tons of tanks queuing as DPS to race though which I certainty don't blame them for doing since they wanna get in and out as quickly as possible but you see on the WOW forums how this is pretty much a shit experience for any new 110s. I guess it's good for them to get carried through but there is a big flaw in the design of trying to get people who vastly vastly surpass the content to go back and run it for really zero reason. Without the essences I would guess 90% of them would never step foot in that shit.. same with LFR and rando BG's. I don't know if the goal is to increase participation in this things or if they really really need people to carry players through or what but it would be a much better system with maybe a weekly cap on the essences but let them come from content that's actually appropriate for the player.

Then again I am pretty sure bliz needs a % of the player base to carry the trashbags kicking and screaming across the finish line.
 

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I know I would never step foot into a Heroic dungeon at this point without the essence reward. Even my fresh alts jump right to Mythic.
 

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Yep, i would absolutely never que for a heroic except for essences.

LFR is hot garbage, logged on to do my biweekly "kill x mob for a cache" quest and ended up doing lfr argus, after 2 wipes where the other tank taunted because dbm told them to and cleaved the entire raid with scythes i said fuck it and ended up having to solo tank it, ended up number 2 in dps. everyone else was doing 500-600k. LFR is aids atm.
 

BoozeCube

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I know I would never step foot into a Heroic dungeon at this point without the essence reward. Even my fresh alts jump right to Mythic.

Pretty sure a vast majority feel the same way. That's why it is such a bad system. The people who are there for essences just want to get the fuck out as fast as possible, and anyone who might be experiencing it for the first time or is new to the expac or whatever I cant imagine just running along trying to keep up with the tank without even being able to cast is fun for them either.
 

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Yep, i would absolutely never que for a heroic except for essences.

LFR is hot garbage, logged on to do my biweekly "kill x mob for a cache" quest and ended up doing lfr argus, after 2 wipes where the other tank taunted because dbm told them to and cleaved the entire raid with scythes i said fuck it and ended up having to solo tank it, ended up number 2 in dps. everyone else was doing 500-600k. LFR is aids atm.
The Argus LFR Is really frustrating. Every group I've done it with has hit enrage on him until we had 4 stacks of determination .

They should just remove his enrage
 

BoozeCube

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The Argus LFR Is really frustrating. Every group I've done it with has hit enrage on him until we had 4 stacks of determination .

They should just remove his enrage

They should make people hit a certain dps in a training dummy before they can join LFR and if they fall below that number no loot drops from the boss. Can be a reasonable number shit even 500k would be a huge improvement for most of these cocksuckers.
 
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They should make people hit a certain dps in a training dummy before they can join LFR and if they fall below that number no loot drops from the boss. Can be a reasonable number shit even 500k would be a huge improvement for most of these cocksuckers.
Lol i wonder how bad I'm at. I hadn't tried any group stuff out of respect of not wanting to be the guy losing to the healer.

Maybe with gear it will change some, but I'm really finding myself pretty... Bored/not thrilled with arms war outside the rush of over pulling 15 things and popping all cool down/artifact and burst aoeing it all down while praying for a victory rush in time to make it thru the last few. Leveling some of the way fury I wasnt super enthused with it either.


Vs my stubbornly leveled holy pal now is a fucking riot with how solo fun invincible plus aoe fun....


Progressing really slow due to the whole casual thing and kinda working thru content in order rather than jumping to argus some I'm chaperoning my non gamer wife. Pretty helpless and slow on her shadow priest since on demand aoe is leaving and i just murder things before she gets more than a couple cases off.
 

Khane

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Pretty sure a vast majority feel the same way. That's why it is such a bad system. The people who are there for essences just want to get the fuck out as fast as possible, and anyone who might be experiencing it for the first time or is new to the expac or whatever I cant imagine just running along trying to keep up with the tank without even being able to cast is fun for them either.

But if it wasn't for that the people who want to "experience" it would be sitting in queue for hours because nobody is doing it.
 

Sumdain x

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The last few heroics i ran were all people 930+ if i'm tanking i run boss to boss and just aoe everything down when you get there. if you aren't part of the overgeared crowd you kinda just stand there holding your dick. they should decrease the amount of essences you get from heroic, and increase the amount of essences you get for your first M+ run of the day, scale it with the level you run. that way players that are 965+ equipped will have a reason to run challenging content instead of queing for shitty heroics.

the LFR issue is a bit harder, there needs to be a personal check of sorts of "are you doing your job" and if you don't then you don't get loot. its complicated when it comes to tanking and healing but for dps, just set a number you have to reach for each fight and you dont get loot if you dont hit that number. There is absolutely no reason someone right now can que as a tank for lfr that hasn't even tanked a heroic dungeon and facepalm their way to loot.
 
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Khane

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That defeats the purpose of LFR. The people who are pulling their weight don't care at all about the low ilvl LFR loot. They are there for Legendary BLP and essences (maybe).

Just remove LFR completely from the game or leave it as it is because it's working as intended (no, seriously).

Legendaries. That's why all of this shit is the way it is. The shitty legendary system. All of these issues stem from essences and BLP.
 
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At 965, I haven't touched a heroic dungeon in months. Course I have almost every lego for every spec, so there's that. Last time I did, I tanked like mentioned above, just rushing to each boss and aoeing shit down without much input from dps or healers. Whether that's fun for the rest or not is debatable. If they need gear from it, I will offer any of my drops, but mostly folks have just wanted in and out of the bullshit tier as fast as possible.

I did drop into an lfr EN one night being bored as balls and did 60% of the overall damage, couple folks bitched about my presence, but I'm sure the majority were happy to clear the segment in less than 15 minutes.
 

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Newb questions. I've got 3.2 billion artifact power now (LOL), and I clicked clicked on the trait for a flat 5% increase to damage. It opened up another circle of 4 artifact traits but I can't click on any of this stuff. Or rather it doesn't do anything. What's happening here?
 

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Newb questions. I've got 3.2 billion artifact power now (LOL), and I clicked clicked on the trait for a flat 5% increase to damage. It opened up another circle of 4 artifact traits but I can't click on any of this stuff. Or rather it doesn't do anything. What's happening here?

When you finished out the weapon and that circle opened up it also added a couple ranks to stuff back on the weapon. Upgrade those.

I had the same thing happen a few days ago as I've just started playing again after 9 months and still having leveling to do even. I had some 50 artifact power items in my bags that I had been saving and the first one that dropped was 630 million. It was a bit of a shock.
 

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Newb questions. I've got 3.2 billion artifact power now (LOL), and I clicked clicked on the trait for a flat 5% increase to damage. It opened up another circle of 4 artifact traits but I can't click on any of this stuff. Or rather it doesn't do anything. What's happening here?
Several of your regular traits need to be upgraded to 4/4 first.
 

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I can't even imagine raising a weapon to 80/81, I stopped doing anything meaningful at 75

It took a little over two weeks to get from 79 to 80, doing primarily follower missions, and occasionally clearing out all the 2.9+b WQ's. Given no other way to upgrade, playing one class and one spec, might as well.
 

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You self admitted you don't do m+

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Antorus has actually been the best for BiS in all slots for me for this expac (minus needing TF from ToS). I was doing m+ during NH, and net zero upgrades, which soured any effort during ToS. Effort to reward is pretty negligible either way.