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Chersk

Trakanon Raider
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I’m liking Draenor. I know it’s usually the lowest rated expansion but I’m reading most of the reasons that made it shit are irrelevant now. What you’re left with are some pretty decent looking zones and fast leveling.
 
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Mist

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WoD had the best looking zones, especially the first one.

The zones in SL look like they're designed by the WoD environment artists so there's at least that to look forward to.
 
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Raes

Vyemm Raider
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Regardless, you get a free lvl 50 character just for buying SL.

Basic version of SL doesn't have a free level boost, need to pay $20 more for the epic version to get that. Since he doesn't have BFA he could get the double pack for $90 which gets 2 boosts, one 48 one 50.
 
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Burns

Avatar of War Slayer
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ya but how is arena now a days? do i need to PVE to get specific things to help me in arena or is it mostly just gaining gear through arena points or rankings? i dont want to get sucked into raiding on wow classic and retail, just retail arena and wow classic raiding. should i level one now or wait until shadowlands comes out? i dont have BFA so i was reading if i wait until shadowlands comes out then i wont have to buy BFA.

Like everything else, Arena will be in shambles until season 1 of Shadowlands starts and it is hard to tell the state of PvP until people are playing it at 60. That said, you should be able to stay competitive in the mid tier of PvP by just doing PvP, but if you wanted to be in the top 5%, you will probably need items from PvE too.

Due to the new leveling system, Blizzard had to included BFA into the base game a little earlier than usual. So all you need is a sub to level to 50. If you are going to level a new toon from 1-50, there will be no difference between starting now, or after SL release. It should take approximately 8 hours.

To double check that BFA is rolled into the base game, I just logged in my old RAF second account, that I have never bought an xpac for; I can play a Kul'Tirin and they jump straight into BFA (you still need to unlock the new races by doing their quests).
 
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Bondurant

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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or waiting a few weeks after shadowlands comes out and buy someones demon hunter accnt..

Do not ever buy WoW accounts, you can't change the account's IRL name attached to it so it will never genuinely be yours, the original owner can get it back whenever he wants with ID and billing info. Buying someone's else WoW account is the very definition of Sword of Damocles. Only dumb people buy WoW accounts.
 

jayrebb

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Do not ever buy WoW accounts, you can't change the account's IRL name attached to it so it will never genuinely be yours, the original owner can get it back whenever he wants with ID and billing info. Buying someone's else WoW account is the very definition of Sword of Damocles. Only dumb people buy WoW accounts.

All you need to provide is credit card screenshots/numbers + identity matching real name.

Recovered every single account ever associated with expired CC's from 15 years ago, via CC lookup. You don't need to provide any specific account info, just provide the CC's associated with the billing of the accounts, and they query it and hand them over immediately. I got 4-5 accounts total and rolled them onto a new BNET account this way.

Didn't need any info, or bearing on what accounts I was looking for. If you buy a WoW account you're a mark.
 

Neranja

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"I want my character to feel powerful and unique but also have access to every possible talent and pseudo-talent switchable at all times."
I just want my class/spec to play coherently without the need for additional legendaries, azerite traits, corruption or any other borrowed power system that just up and vanishes every expansion. Oh, and I don't want to walk on eggshells and work around bugs and somehow exploit them to not be a burden for my team/group/raid.

The class/spec should make it fun to play. If it doesn't on its own, then there is something wrong with it and it needs to be fixed at that level, without bullshit band-aids in the form of "additional talent trees." Here is an illustration of how it feels:

azerite.jpg


Windwalkers have petitioned many things over the last expansions. One example is for Storm Earth and Fire to be either fixed, or scrapped and replaced altogether, but for multiple expansions now the devs have done nothing. Of course when there is a bug that can be exploited in the beta it's hotfixed in less then 24 hours.

Someone on the dev team is clearly invested in this ability (most likely because they designed them), but is either not invested enough or competent enough to fix it so it works like intended. Clearly no one plays either windwalker or mistweaver monk on the dev team, or they would feel the need to fix the pain points.
 
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Malkav

French Madman
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So, it seems like BFA access is broken for some new alts right now.

Some characters are not getting the BFA intro questline, like my monk. Got it to 50 doing Legion timewalking, got Magni questline to get the heart, and then a big fat nothing, no BFA quests, which means the character can't really access any of BFA systems.
 
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Neranja

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like my monk.
Made a DH that can't access BfA at all, too. I heard conflicting reports on this: either it's mostly allied races and DK/DH, or it was totally broken in the last friday hotfix. You can talk to chromie and revert to the BfA timeline to be able to queue for BfA dungeons, though.

Scaling is also totally fucked up: if you run classic dungeons sub level 20 you are literally a god doing twice the damage everyone else does combined. Once you are around 25 it suddenly drops and as a tank you are starting to be a liability. Cutoff point in BfA dungeons seems to be higher: I grouped as a 26 vengeance DH and did the most damage in groups while the level 12 resto druid was mostly bored, and the 48 and 50 DDs couldn't keep up.

Disc priests seem also a bit broken, at least in the 15 to 20 range. Atonement doesn't seem to work correctly, healing from it seems sub-par. Had problems keeping higher level tanks alive without access to any of the disc cooldowns. Oh, and this gem: You get mastery at level 10, which is +healing from Atonement. You get Atonement itself at level 12.
 
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Fucker

Log Wizard
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So, it seems like BFA access is broken for some new alts right now.

Some characters are not getting the BFA intro questline, like my monk. Got it to 50 doing Legion timewalking, got Magni questline to get the heart, and then a big fat nothing, no BFA quests, which means the character can't really access any of BFA systems.
Chromie anything is busted on my alliance alt, but works fine for my horde alt. Why? Just Blizzard things.
 

Fucker

Log Wizard
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WoD had the best looking zones, especially the first one.

The zones in SL look like they're designed by the WoD environment artists so there's at least that to look forward to.

Going back and playing through WOD shows how far off the plot the devs have become. In WOD, I have more choices than I have desire to do. In BFA, I had almost nothing to do and no desire to do it.

In WOD, just flying around and getting treasure chests took a few sessions of play time. BFA? What treasure chests? What alternate things to do?
 
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Koushirou

Log Wizard
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I really, really miss WoD. I think it’s probably my favorite expac. I understand the end-game complaints but I loved that I didn’t really have to do any chores and shit to stay relevant in a raid and that lack of chores meant I had tons of time for alts. Having a nicely optimized garrison was satisfying, the zones were gorgeous, treasures were fun. I think it’s also my favorite iteration of enhancement (MoP’s was good as well, but I barely got to enjoy it since I had to quit at the time). The only bitch I can remember is the flying shenanigans and some cut content (Karabor, etc. not having an inside) and no Fields of Farahlon which I was looking forward to.
 
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Kaige

<WoW Guild Officer>
<WoW Guild Officer>
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Blackrock Foundry in WoD is still one of my favorite raids. The train fight is easily one of the most hilarious.
 
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Kuro

Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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We mercilessly teased anyone who died to Oregorger's phase2 the rest of the night.
 

Bondurant

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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In WOD, just flying around and getting treasure chests took a few sessions of play time. BFA? What treasure chests? What alternate things to do?

People complained about that, like "I don't want people to do content I don't like and get stuff". So they turned them trivial.
 

Mist

REEEEeyore
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Blackrock Foundry and Firelands are probably the only two raids I'm sad I missed in my 8 year WoW break.

I guess Throne of Thunder was good too?
 

Mist

REEEEeyore
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I just want my class/spec to play coherently without the need for additional legendaries, azerite traits, corruption or any other borrowed power system that just up and vanishes every expansion. Oh, and I don't want to walk on eggshells and work around bugs and somehow exploit them to not be a burden for my team/group/raid.

The class/spec should make it fun to play. If it doesn't on its own, then there is something wrong with it and it needs to be fixed at that level, without bullshit band-aids in the form of "additional talent trees." Here is an illustration of how it feels:

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Windwalkers have petitioned many things over the last expansions. One example is for Storm Earth and Fire to be either fixed, or scrapped and replaced altogether, but for multiple expansions now the devs have done nothing. Of course when there is a bug that can be exploited in the beta it's hotfixed in less then 24 hours.

Someone on the dev team is clearly invested in this ability (most likely because they designed them), but is either not invested enough or competent enough to fix it so it works like intended. Clearly no one plays either windwalker or mistweaver monk on the dev team, or they would feel the need to fix the pain points.
I think they could strike a balance between borrowed power and keeping it.

Like at the end of each expac add a talent tier that represents 3 of the signature bits of borrowed power available to your class and you can spec one of them.
 

Penance

Silver Baronet of the Realm
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I think they could strike a balance between borrowed power and keeping it.

Like at the end of each expac add a talent tier that represents 3 of the signature bits of borrowed power available to your class and you can spec one of them.

Or, they just make it less of a pain to "configure" your character. Legendaries were cool, minus the RNG, in that you could spec multiple different ways throughout a raid (with the help of tomes) and get the most out of your class/spec.

BFA, you had Azerite you had to go back to the trainer, huge step backward. Then Essences which were the same. Then corruption which were boring legendaries with more RNG.

Shadowlands looks to be even worse with Covenenants.

It's like they want people to try new things, and then completely fuck them in the ass when they make the wrong choice.