World of Warcraft: Current Year

People looking for 180+ for Torghast can fuck right off. Seriously what sort of neckbeard can even come close to that right now? You'd need crafted gear or something yes?

Weird, since in the open world people have been pretty damn friendly on my server calling out rares and waiting for people to show up to them.

I’m 182. 184 is just full M0 gear.

Qhue said:

People looking for 180+ for Torghast can fuck right off. Seriously what sort of neckbeard can even come close to that right now? You'd need crafted gear or something yes?

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My experience has been that grouping handicaps you in Torgast.

On my rogue, I have done one rank 3 Torgast with 4 skilled players (tank/healer/dps/dps), all around 155 ilev; everything outside of the end boss was more difficult and slower than the three rank 3's I did solo.

My DK tank feels like cheating, as he walks over everything at 154.5 ilev, but the one rank 3 I failed to kill the end boss was in a group with a friend (at that time DK was at ~140 ilev, but friend was 155+).

Also, I have not run into any dickish behavior on Alliance side in the handful of random dungeons I have done, nor in the outerworld.

Daidraco said:

I feel like you're playing Night Fae just by the healer remark. My Kyrian Companions/Soul Binds are 27x2, and 23x2. 3 of them are Melee DPS and 1 of them is Ranged Bow DPS. Troops are Melee DPS and Tank. I could complain about the balance between covenants for the table, but granted its just "something to do" and never really gives me anything useful (player power wise) - I just dont care enough to.

The stuff people complain about in this game has gotten to the level of Karen and its just annoying af to read the complaints all the time. "The Sky Box is Blue! Fuck Blizzard!"

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I am playing Night Fae, although they're not even the most OP with healers...frankly they whole "heals adjacent unit" part of their troops/companions is terrible, b/c they really don't mean all adjacent units, just the one their system prioritizes. Venthyr I think have the most OP group heals?

Janx said:

I go against the grain and play survival.

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Oh, in that case it probably was your fault

i have a dk where i will off-spec tank for dungeons to avoid the queue and a druid healer and i have yet to find anything but pleasant people in lfg. i mean, the worst i've had is just zero conversation but no one was behaving poorly or stupidly. you obviously get some sub-par performances but no one has been a bad "player" if that makes sense.

though, my friend has sworn off tanking and healing, despite being great in both roles, simply because he's tired of monstrously terrible dps ruining every single pull this expansion, so results may vary i guess

I'd love to play prot paly in dungeons, but the idea of being kicked for shit like not knowing the route on your first run of a dungeon or shit like that makes me avoid it. So instead I just switch to ret and eat the queue anyway.

Should i even bother running solo Torg 3 as a Hunter? Talked to some other Hunters and they aren't able to get one of the bosses below 50%.

BM. I had a similar experience 20-25%.

Is it worth running as MM for Torg 3 or will I need a healer? ilevel 170's. My MM setup solo'd both 2's no problem. But when I'm on BM wipes happen, probably because these fights amount to DPS races.

Debating if I should run 3 solo again before patch. What's the word on Hunters in 3?

jayrebb said:

Should i even bother running solo Torg 3 as a Hunter? Talked to some other Hunters and they aren't able to get one of the bosses below 50%.

BM. I had a similar experience 20-25%.

Is it worth running as MM for Torg 3 or will I need a healer? ilevel 170's. My MM setup solo'd both 2's no problem. But when I'm on BM wipes happen, probably because these fights amount to DPS races.

Debating if I should run 3 solo again before patch. What's the word on Hunters in 3?

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I think it's vastly easier to run on BM than MM for solo stuff like that. Certain bosses might be tougher than others, especially caster heavy ones when your stun is a 1 min CD and interrupt is 24 seconds. I easily soloed Torg 3's as BM, and that was before I had the ilevel I did now. Pet tank with mend pet while you can dps the whole time is just OP as fuck.

Controller support is laughable.

They added enough to nuke the ConsolePort mod which worked perfectly but not enough to be functional without custom Bartender bars and console commands. Dialouge choices and quest rewards are a nightmare.

Still trying to perfect my setup, anyone else doing this?

Merrith said:

I think it's vastly easier to run on BM than MM for solo stuff like that. Certain bosses might be tougher than others, especially caster heavy ones when your stun is a 1 min CD and interrupt is 24 seconds. I easily soloed Torg 3's as BM, and that was before I had the ilevel I did now. Pet tank with mend pet while you can dps the whole time is just OP as fuck.

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I'll give it another shake on BM with Faultline. I needed a confidence booster so thanks.

Yeah got 3 no problem. Must have had shitty rolls on my other BM run.

Malkav said:

I'd love to play prot paly in dungeons, but the idea of being kicked for shit like not knowing the route on your first run of a dungeon or shit like that makes me avoid it. So instead I just switch to ret and eat the queue anyway.

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It was a royal pain in the ass to learn all that. Not to mention a lot of the trash has mechanics that need to be dealt with. Even right now normals and heroics can be harder than doing a M0 because we don't outgear them and the players in the group do shit dps and don't interrupt anything. Its worth it though for getting instant groups for anything.

Calling it now : Ve'Nari will be the big-bad for the next expansion pack. No way that bitch aint playing us all for fools.

Warmuth said:

It was a royal pain in the ass to learn all that. Not to mention a lot of the trash has mechanics that need to be dealt with. Even right now normals and heroics can be harder than doing a M0 because we don't outgear them and the players in the group do shit dps and don't interrupt anything. Its worth it though for getting instant groups for anything.

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I asked for help interrupting a single type of mob in a run yesterday and the first response I got was similar to an autistic kid screaming that a prot pally can do it alone. Yes, Timmy - I can do it alone if its the only mob that I'm tanking. Go take your ritalin, thanks. He was going on and on about how Demon Hunter's are better tanks and how awesome they were. I told him to look up sims and his first response was "I dont care what these say, they dont take any damage and kill so fast". Thats when I knew to stop responding to the idiot right then and there.

Ukerric said:

The mechanic rewarding for not killing stuff cracks me up...

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Ive tried a few times to be extra sensitive to what I kill and dont kill - but overall.. its inconsequential. The biggest QOL change I'll get is when I cant be abducted anymore. I may get a rare or two in 4>5, but half that tier or more is usually obliterated by that dumbass mechanic.

Chris said:

Controller support is laughable.

They added enough to nuke the ConsolePort mod which worked perfectly but not enough to be functional without custom Bartender bars and console commands. Dialouge choices and quest rewards are a nightmare.

Still trying to perfect my setup, anyone else doing this?

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If they can get WoW's controller support on the level of FFXIV's - I'll level alts with it for sure. FFXIV's controller support is fantastic, but nothing Ive seen from WoW's has made me think its ready.

Qhue said:

People looking for 180+ for Torghast can fuck right off. Seriously what sort of neckbeard can even come close to that right now? You'd need crafted gear or something yes?

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No idea why someone would give two shits about needing 180 for Torghast. But simply doing both of your Mythic Zero rotations for the last two weeks should have put you somewhere around 180 with your Legendary. Trinkets are 200 and super cheap now, as well. PVP gear can fill out a lot of spots and afaik, you can upgrade pvp gear to 184 starting tomorrow.