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Burns

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After reading the last few pages, I'm going to have to go find my Warcraft 3 CD, install a DVD drive into my computer, and play through the original Arthas and Illiden story in order to wash off this stench of modern WoW lore.
 
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Caeden

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I really feel like they should have used Legion to end the game or something
 
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Leadsalad

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After reading the last few pages, I'm going to have to go find my Warcraft 3 CD, install a DVD drive into my computer, and play through the original Arthas and Illiden story in order to wash off this stench of modern WoW lore.
They remastered it though bro!
 

Araxen

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I really feel like they should have used Legion to end the game or something

Sadly, they can't because they aren't fast enough to develop a true sequel to it. It would literally take them 12 years to create WoW 2.
 
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Caeden

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Sadly, they can't because they aren't fast enough to develop a true sequel to it. It would literally take them 12 years to create WoW 2.
I think they should have dumped the MMO and made more RTS adventure games really. But I'm also doing this suggestion in vacuum where I'm assuming they have talent at Blizzard and Kotick Kocksuckers.
 

Arbitrary

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Sadly, they can't because they aren't fast enough to develop a true sequel to it. It would literally take them 12 years to create WoW 2.

What I thought they could have done was wrap up the story Legion. The Burning Legion is destroyed and the player character is the apex of their class. You've wielded the legendary weapons from Azeroth's history. There's nowhere to go. You call that the end of World of Warcraft and announce the launch of WoW2. Now, you aren't really ending WoW of course and you aren't making a whole new game. What you are doing is taking the opportunity to shuffle everything around. This is where you get all your squishes. Squish hard. This is also where you restructure the Horde vs. Alliance dynamic and the races on each side. Take another pass at everything. Making it a design goal that every single bit and bob is looked at and reevaluated. The whole game shine it back up.

For the story you move forward a couple generations. There has been peace now for five decades but the malign influence of the Sword of Sargaras is causing old wounds to tear back open again and war again breaks out. The player character is back down to cracker farm boy status. You aren't the big shit that killed all those gods. You're just a promising young whatever of the new era.
 
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sadris

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How Sylvanas have any redemption arc is baffling. She burnt down the Night Elf city. How can someone be redeemed after they do that?
Well Hitler killed millions of Jews, but he also burned decades of transexual research.
 
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Nola

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There won’t be a WoW 2 for quite some time. Just like the Diablo dev team they have no fucking clue where they want to go with the game. It would be a total train wreck.
 
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Caeden

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What I thought they could have done was wrap up the story Legion. The Burning Legion is destroyed and the player character is the apex of their class. You've wielded the legendary weapons from Azeroth's history. There's nowhere to go. You call that the end of World of Warcraft and announce the launch of WoW2. Now, you aren't really ending WoW of course and you aren't making a whole new game. What you are doing is taking the opportunity to shuffle everything around. This is where you get all your squishes. Squish hard. This is also where you restructure the Horde vs. Alliance dynamic and the races on each side. Take another pass at everything. Making it a design goal that every single bit and bob is looked at and reevaluated. The whole game shine it back up.

For the story you move forward a couple generations. There has been peace now for five decades but the malign influence of the Sword of Sargaras is causing old wounds to tear back open again and war again breaks out. The player character is back down to cracker farm boy status. You aren't the big shit that killed all those gods. You're just a promising young whatever of the new era.
Already a better story. Work in that the sword weakened the last of the titan bonds on N'zoth and that Sylvanas has departed the horde and launched a misbegotten quest to create an army of undead immune to the corruption to pull the world from N'zoth's clutches with maybe a subplot of whoever is leading the undead being weaker and the undead being persecuted by orcs or something.

There, you've got two xpacs. Make the raids on the new WoW2 be lieutenants similar to what they did with Vanilla. Maybe its Nathanos, some corrupted dude, and maybe a bug raid. N'zoth is next and maybe a drunk on power Sylvanas is the xpac after that. The second pack would be an entire xpac in this corrupted mirror of Azeroth. The third could literally be a remade Northrend, but maybe you add in the isles as sub zones as they help oppose Sylvanas?

I don't know but htis is already better than what happened.
 
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jayrebb

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There won’t be a WoW 2 for quite some time. Just like the Diablo dev team they have no fucking clue where they want to go with the game. It would be a total train wreck.

Like it matters if its good anyway. Blizzard still breathes because they're "made men" that established themselves and these products when there was a intense interest in them.

SC2 is an abomination and the strategies are generally cheap and unfun. We all play SC1 for the true chess match.

Same for Diablo 3 versus 2.

Any attempt to follow up has fell flat.

Overwatch hit at the right time and wouldn't have got market share if Valorant was out.
 
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TJT

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The Horde were invading Ashenvale and Gilneas/Hillsbrad/Arathi.

The Barrens humans in vanilla at least were from Kul Tiras (who had left The Alliance and only rejoined in BfA) and not Theramore.
The Cataclysm changes to Barrens had a big ass canyon cut into it by Deathwing. Part of the revised Barrens/Cataclysm storyline is you trying to repel Alliance forces that were explicitly coming out of Theramore as Dustwallow/Theramore is right there. Camp Turajo (Tauren settlement/quest hub in the South barrens near RFD/RFK entrances) has been destroyed... by Alliance. The survivors of Camp Turajo are hiding in the hills that they called The Ghost Roads or some shit because you use grappling hooks and shit to get up there and they were using them to ambush Alliance and run away. This was one of the much more awesome changes to Barrens quests I really liked.

I also liked the Stonetalon Legion quests where you go there and "rank up" in the Legion as you complete quests. That was also awesome.

Playing Barrens again on TBC has been cool too. I really liked the Alliance leveling zones like Red Ridge and Westfall. Maybe its muh nostalgia but Barrens is great and pleasant.
 
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Mist

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I resubbed (with gold) and within about an hour decided I'd have more fun cleaning my office than doing my WoWchores.
 
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Neranja

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A short story about salary, in three pictures:

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TJT

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Rank and file developers are sure as fuck not pulling $275k. That is probably director-level employees or senior managers. The others are quite a bit more realistic for actual senior developers.
 

Neranja

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I bet you the developers at Square Enix in Japan make less money per hour than a lot of those other companies.
I wouldn't bet on that. Work culture in game development is shit everywhere. Remember the outcry about the working conditions during the development of Cyberpunk? Yeah, they cried about working on saturdays, even if the strict Polish overtime laws prevent most of it. Meanwhile there are stories that Naughty Dog really fucked their employees with crunch, but CDPR was the bad guy for the gaming press.

Also, the developers at SE seem to have enough free time to take on spare time projects: Flying in the ARR zones, male Viera and female Hrothgar are such projects.

That is probably director-level employees or senior managers.
Text says it's the average. It's still an insane number, but cost of living in Tokio is also very high. But it's also very high in Los Angeles. I guess Blizzard found a way to employ the homeless people in their parking lot for minimum wage.