Yeah on one hand it's kind of amazing the amount of shit bots can do these days. On the other hand it basically ruins these types of games. Honestly, I feel like Blizzard should permanently ban these accounts but I guess that isn't good for their bottom dollar. Or maybe in their experience people learn from these long 6-18 month vacations. Enough time to them to get the itch again and buy the next expansion.
To be fair the way the game is currently set up just showing up to raids isn't enough when you are progressing. It sucks because there are a lot of people like you who only have so much time. The way AP works, or perhaps better phrasing would be the way AP worked at the beginning of the expansion, you needed to farm a decent amount to be ready to perform well in raids at the start. Sure, now that your DPS are overgeared and you have 3 gold dragons on your tank weapon things are a lot easier. I feel like they missed the bottom end mark. The gap is super wide. The alt catch up coming in a couple weeks will super help but even then you have to farm a lot of order resources.
To be fair the way the game is currently set up just showing up to raids isn't enough when you are progressing. It sucks because there are a lot of people like you who only have so much time. The way AP works, or perhaps better phrasing would be the way AP worked at the beginning of the expansion, you needed to farm a decent amount to be ready to perform well in raids at the start. Sure, now that your DPS are overgeared and you have 3 gold dragons on your tank weapon things are a lot easier. I feel like they missed the bottom end mark. The gap is super wide. The alt catch up coming in a couple weeks will super help but even then you have to farm a lot of order resources.
Agreed you can't just show up. I always made sure I was geared and ready to go. My AP is behind a bit but in general I don't care. I think the artifact design is stupid anyways.
Being behind now is probably fine. At the start it really hurt progression. I wasn't raiding with them but the guild I was in at the beginning of the expansion was trying to progress with tanks who had 1 gold dragon and it just didn't work. They ended up losing a lot of good people because they weren't able to be good enough. You're situation is different because you guys are super casual. Still similar though. I wish they would do something to lower the gap between having no points and having 20 points.
I just started raiding with a mythic clearing guild and you can tell the healers who have the hidden talent on the weapon unlocked and the ones who do not, No matter how hard i heal I'll always be lower than the player with the maxed out weapon.
I have 4 more points before I finish and it's really starting to be a grind because now i'm not getting interesting talents i'm getting the shit ones like "Reduce your reincarnation time"
Any of you IT guys good with networking? I want to figure out what these retarded Africans did to the internet 5 days ago that makes WoW unplayable (and other sites shitty too). Used the battle.net diagnostic tool and got the following traceroute/ping:
TRACEROUTE:
traceroute to 41.189.243.1 (41.189.243.1), 15 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 Blizzard (Blizzard) 0.726 ms 0.766 ms 0.856 ms
2 * * *
3 37.244.0.102 (37.244.0.102) 8.710 ms 8.740 ms 8.758 ms
4 37.244.0.34 (37.244.0.34) 2.574 ms 2.618 ms 2.741 ms
5 te0-4-0-9.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.84.12) 37.623 ms 37.643 ms 37.699 ms
6 be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.31.53) 37.771 ms 37.570 ms 37.552 ms
7 be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.85) 37.300 ms 37.443 ms 37.446 ms
8 be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.66) 37.495 ms 37.309 ms 37.302 ms
9 be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.221) 37.050 ms 37.175 ms 37.158 ms
10 be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.69) 152.667 ms 153.071 ms 153.055 ms
11 be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.157) 152.923 ms 152.936 ms 152.837 ms
12 be2806.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.105) 152.948 ms 152.844 ms 152.422 ms
13 be2915.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.61) 152.707 ms 152.723 ms 152.894 ms
14 be2088.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.43.17) 152.834 ms 152.705 ms 152.582 ms
15 be3042.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.161) 152.627 ms 152.666 ms 152.884 ms
14/12/2016 05:52:45 UTC
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TRACEROUTE:
traceroute to 41.189.243.1 (41.189.243.1), 15 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 Blizzard (Blizzard) 0.398 ms 0.455 ms 0.495 ms
2 * * *
3 37.244.0.102 (37.244.0.102) 8.244 ms 8.260 ms 8.302 ms
4 37.244.0.34 (37.244.0.34) 3.072 ms 4.482 ms 4.501 ms
5 te0-4-0-9.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.84.12) 37.384 ms 37.409 ms 38.752 ms
6 be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.31.53) 37.698 ms 38.759 ms 38.753 ms
7 be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.85) 37.166 ms 37.231 ms 37.317 ms
8 be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.66) 37.596 ms 37.657 ms 37.661 ms
9 be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.29.221) 37.084 ms 37.065 ms 37.072 ms
10 be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.69) 152.881 ms 152.840 ms 152.905 ms
11 be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.157) 152.756 ms 152.806 ms 152.764 ms
12 be2806.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.105) 152.706 ms 152.467 ms 152.357 ms
13 be2915.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.61) 152.516 ms 152.530 ms 152.719 ms
14 be2088.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.43.17) 152.806 ms 152.649 ms 152.532 ms
15 be3042.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.161) 152.470 ms 152.564 ms 152.535 ms
14/12/2016 05:52:45 UTC
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PING:
PING 41.189.243.1 (41.189.243.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
I don't know how to read any of this shit; is anything on there obviously out of the ordinary? Game played fine with a 200-300 average ping for 5.5 months, then they do a "service update" and I can't play. Log in, sometimes it's okay for about 15 minutes, sometimes it is just instant lag (usually shows normal ping but it's actually in the 4000-5000 range) and can't do a thing. Eventually boots me.
Netflix has also gotten much worse; used to stream 720p np but now it struggles even loading and when it does it's very low quality.
Would need more details on your internet. Those are route traces to and from blizzard. You are showing quite a few hops to various gear along Cogents pipe, which may be a routing issue, depending on where you live. Could be wacky QoS settings in your router too which are causing the high latency right off the jump. I agree, post in the networking thread, I think we have a CCNP person in there.
I just started raiding with a mythic clearing guild and you can tell the healers who have the hidden talent on the weapon unlocked and the ones who do not, No matter how hard i heal I'll always be lower than the player with the maxed out weapon.
I have 4 more points before I finish and it's really starting to be a grind because now i'm not getting interesting talents i'm getting the shit ones like "Reduce your reincarnation time"
Dunno what ak level you have but at 20 AP just flows in. Got my hidden golden and the one before it in like 2 days just clearing EN and a few dungeons and WQ
Why do M+ keystones exist? What purpose do they serve besides allowing people to grief, intentional or not? I was thinking a system based on ilvl and/or clear time would be better at dictating what level of M+ you could access.
Why do M+ keystones exist? What purpose do they serve besides allowing people to grief, intentional or not? I was thinking a system based on ilvl and/or clear time would be better at dictating what level of M+ you could access.
They exist in order to force you to do specific challenges instead of allowing you to pick your own. Wanna do DHT+10 all day long? Too bad, you got BRH, sucker.
Why do M+ keystones exist? What purpose do they serve besides allowing people to grief, intentional or not? I was thinking a system based on ilvl and/or clear time would be better at dictating what level of M+ you could access.
Honestly I really enjoy them. I enjoy the challenge. I PUG them and do them with guildies. I'm only at like 35 or 40 of them between all my toons but I find them exciting and better then farming the same shit dungeon with no challenge once a week and logging. I have literally never had a leaver. The other day one dude in the group was calling another guy who pugged in autistic and stupid and guy still didn't leave. Not sure if the griefing problem is really that large.
Depends on which troll you get. If name-calling is all they were doing, I wouldn't leave either. There are groups of people who offer to carry, your key, and just drop once you've started the thing because luls.
I think he means the keystone itself, not the M+ dungeons. The keystones get depleted and someone can waste your time if you don't know that ahead of time.
That part is easily fixable though, just require the person to link the keystone and it'll show you if it's depleted. Also, when the dungeon first starts there are quite a few addons (and maybe even the default ui?) that shows that the timer is for a depleted key run.
People who just leave halfway through a run on your key though? Yea that's stupid.
It's easy to find keys for whatever dungeon you want anyway so I'm not sure why they don't just let you run whatever dungeon you want at whatever level you've already unlocked for the week.
Three chest an EoA 9? Now you can do any 12 you want. 2 chest the 9? Any 11. Etc
Fail the 9? Well you can run any 9 you want to try to get access to higher dungeons still, but you're not getting loot.
They exist in order to force you to do specific challenges instead of allowing you to pick your own. Wanna do DHT+10 all day long? Too bad, you got BRH, sucker.
I would think a daily or weekly incentive to do a specific dungeon would work better instead of forcing people into just one. I didn't state this in my first post, but I dislike that part of the keystones too. Upgrading your keystone to a HoV or BRH can really kill your motivation too.
Honestly I really enjoy them. I enjoy the challenge. I PUG them and do them with guildies. I'm only at like 35 or 40 of them between all my toons but I find them exciting and better then farming the same shit dungeon with no challenge once a week and logging. I have literally never had a leaver. The other day one dude in the group was calling another guy who pugged in autistic and stupid and guy still didn't leave. Not sure if the griefing problem is really that large.
I don't think it's that big of a problem either. But from a technical standpoint, I was trying to think of a reason for them to exist anyway. They already gate heroics by ilvl, so the mechanism and code exists. Why not just continue using that? I think they copied D3's grift wholesale without thinking it out some more. Just because D3 has keystones doesn't mean WoW has to as well.
Reduce (the number of programmers), reuse (everything we've ever done in Diablo), recycle (concepts that don't really apply to WoW but worked fine in D3).
