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ZyyzYzzy

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Deathwing is really, really undergeared compared to most people at this point in the expansion so he's likely only going to get invited to bad groups unless he gets himself into a carry. Best way to do that would be to join a guild that does normal/heroic runs for alts.
Figured he was some ilvl890 ta k with the way he talks about everything...lolz
 

ZyyzYzzy

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I think I might be done until nighthold. I am sick of never getting gear that has appropriate stats and even if we clear heroic HoV nothing in there is useful to me except one item if it rolls really high. I enjoy raiding but that's about the only thing I enjoy in the game atm. I am honestly 100% salty that my prot gear is now better than my holy gear and I really don't want to tank but it feels fucking stupid not to.

idunno, might show up friday but my account dies saturday, I have a gametime coin so can come back whenever but meh
This is how I feel. Don't like running mythic+ on the offchance toget an upgrade with the right secondary stats+titanforge
 

Crone

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Noodleface Noodleface As Cup had said, it was just a little off-putting. I tried finding the exact post, but gave up, but if I remember right we had been talking about gearing up, or being ready for raids, and you had mentioned 830 ilvl gear, when WQs, LFR, and M+ all were spewing out higher than 830 gear. But I tend to get passionate and lash out about the wrong things, so I apologize. The bigger picture is that it didn't matter at all, and I should have realized that.

Cupcaek Cupcaek That was me. I used to bot Asheron's Call, as it was pretty much legal and damn near built into the game. In a sorta RAF way, you could swear allegiance to your other toons to pass them experience, and then stick them all in the same group botting away killing shit. Would watch that shit for hours as my guys would level up. In that game, there was a soft cap on levels, so it was just endless grinding... Mesmerizing is the correct word for sure. It's fun!

As for the transparency, I see no reason to hide it at this point. I suppose I shoved it in Noodle's face that 1 time, but I truly didn't try and wave a big dick around in game over play times, gear, or otherwise, because I was obviously botting it all, and not doing it myself. Some chose to put me on ignore after finding out that I used a Fishbot, let alone the more serious leveling/WQ bots, and that's their choice, but it does make me sad a little bit. Again, missing that whole bigger picture thing. If I had just stayed legit, I'd be sorta behind, but at least I would have been doing it myself. And after going legit the last few weeks, it's far easier than I ever thought.

Again, people bot for their own reasons and I had mine. In hindsight, probably incorrect ones, but regardless I did what I did and take the consequences that go with it.
 

ZyyzYzzy

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Noodleface Noodleface As Cup had said, it was just a little off-putting. I tried finding the exact post, but gave up, but if I remember right we had been talking about gearing up, or being ready for raids, and you had mentioned 830 ilvl gear, when WQs, LFR, and M+ all were spewing out higher than 830 gear. But I tend to get passionate and lash out about the wrong things, so I apologize. The bigger picture is that it didn't matter at all, and I should have realized that.

Cupcaek Cupcaek That was me. I used to bot Asheron's Call, as it was pretty much legal and damn near built into the game. In a sorta RAF way, you could swear allegiance to your other toons to pass them experience, and then stick them all in the same group botting away killing shit. Would watch that shit for hours as my guys would level up. In that game, there was a soft cap on levels, so it was just endless grinding... Mesmerizing is the correct word for sure. It's fun!

As for the transparency, I see no reason to hide it at this point. I suppose I shoved it in Noodle's face that 1 time, but I truly didn't try and wave a big dick around in game over play times, gear, or otherwise, because I was obviously botting it all, and not doing it myself. Some chose to put me on ignore after finding out that I used a Fishbot, let alone the more serious leveling/WQ bots, and that's their choice, but it does make me sad a little bit. Again, missing that whole bigger picture thing. If I had just stayed legit, I'd be sorta behind, but at least I would have been doing it myself. And after going legit the last few weeks, it's far easier than I ever thought.

Again, people bot for their own reasons and I had mine. In hindsight, probably incorrect ones, but regardless I did what I did and take the consequences that go with it.
Except LFR, M+ weren't out then?
 

Deathwing

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jesus, no wonder you don't like raiding. that is horrid. a decent EN Normal clear takes an hour tops.
Deathwing is really, really undergeared compared to most people at this point in the expansion so he's likely only going to get invited to bad groups unless he gets himself into a carry. Best way to do that would be to join a guild that does normal/heroic runs for alts.
Yeah, but I resubbed to play with friends and do some challenging content. M+ content is perfect for that. A swift EN clear where I get carried by an overgeared core isn't that enticing.

Friends' interest in the game is already waning so I'm likely going to just gear my characters up through regular Mythics then stop. Quite a relief to not have to further endure pugging M+. Kinda like season journey in D3. Get to a certain gear level then stop.
Figured he was some ilvl890 ta k with the way he talks about everything...lolz
I freely admit where my experience is lacking. Sorry to have mislead you, but I've always claimed to only been on a few raids this expansion so I'm not sure where you got the impression I was that well geared.
 

ZyyzYzzy

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Yeah, but I resubbed to play with friends and do some challenging content. M+ content is perfect for that. A swift EN clear where I get carried by an overgeared core isn't that enticing.

Friends' interest in the game is already waning so I'm likely going to just gear my characters up through regular Mythics then stop. Quite a relief to not have to further endure pugging M+. Kinda like season journey in D3. Get to a certain gear level then stop.

I freely admit where my experience is lacking. Sorry to have mislead you, but I've always claimed to only been on a few raids this expansion so I'm not sure where you got the impression I was that well geared.
The way you talk about how you know everything and sim everything? Just play the fucking game?
 

Cupcaek

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Noodleface Noodleface As Cup had said, it was just a little off-putting. I tried finding the exact post, but gave up, but if I remember right we had been talking about gearing up, or being ready for raids, and you had mentioned 830 ilvl gear, when WQs, LFR, and M+ all were spewing out higher than 830 gear. But I tend to get passionate and lash out about the wrong things, so I apologize. The bigger picture is that it didn't matter at all, and I should have realized that.

Cupcaek Cupcaek That was me. I used to bot Asheron's Call, as it was pretty much legal and damn near built into the game. In a sorta RAF way, you could swear allegiance to your other toons to pass them experience, and then stick them all in the same group botting away killing shit. Would watch that shit for hours as my guys would level up. In that game, there was a soft cap on levels, so it was just endless grinding... Mesmerizing is the correct word for sure. It's fun!

As for the transparency, I see no reason to hide it at this point. I suppose I shoved it in Noodle's face that 1 time, but I truly didn't try and wave a big dick around in game over play times, gear, or otherwise, because I was obviously botting it all, and not doing it myself. Some chose to put me on ignore after finding out that I used a Fishbot, let alone the more serious leveling/WQ bots, and that's their choice, but it does make me sad a little bit. Again, missing that whole bigger picture thing. If I had just stayed legit, I'd be sorta behind, but at least I would have been doing it myself. And after going legit the last few weeks, it's far easier than I ever thought.

Again, people bot for their own reasons and I had mine. In hindsight, probably incorrect ones, but regardless I did what I did and take the consequences that go with it.

Botting is the best, it should totally be legal in all games. Its like masturbation, good for everyone.
 

Crone

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Except LFR, M+ weren't out then?
In the moment of posting what I did back then at Noodle, I felt there were enough gear options available to not have 830 ilvl boots, and gave him shit for it, especially as our main tank. As already mentioned though, in the bigger picture of things it didn't matter, and I should have realized that.
 

alavaz

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I can't dictate to any one how to have fun with this game, but realistically, you don't need the best of gear to do well in Normal and Heroic raids. I'd encourage anyone who finds the Friday/Monday raid fun to show up and have fun (especially ranged DPS :D). I've never done a mythic+. Hell I haven't even unlocked the two Suramar mythics...
 

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I can't dictate to any one how to have fun with this game, but realistically, you don't need the best of gear to do well in Normal and Heroic raids. I'd encourage anyone who finds the Friday/Monday raid fun to show up and have fun (especially ranged DPS :D). I've never done a mythic+. Hell I haven't even unlocked the two Suramar mythics...

Friday and Mondays are fun, people should come as long as they aren't on the bad faction

Plz ranged where r u
 

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I can't dictate to any one how to have fun with this game, but realistically, you don't need the best of gear to do well in Normal and Heroic raids. I'd encourage anyone who finds the Friday/Monday raid fun to show up and have fun (especially ranged DPS :D). I've never done a mythic+. Hell I haven't even unlocked the two Suramar mythics...
You should just because the AP from them is fucking crazy good and it's not that long of a slog.
 

Deathwing

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Also, you need to do that quest line to do pathfinder. 20% mount speed now, flying in 7.2.

Shit, I haven't finished that yet. Can I comment on that, ZyyzYzzy ZyyzYzzy ?
 

ZyyzYzzy

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Also, you need to do that quest line to do pathfinder. 20% mount speed now, flying in 7.2.

Shit, I haven't finished that yet. Can I comment on that, ZyyzYzzy ZyyzYzzy ?
I don't care. Just stop analyzing fucking stats and rotations and play the game. Active mitigation is not hard to keep up if you don't stare at simcraft all day.