World of Warcraft: Current Year

Any class that I decide to play will be nerfed into uselessness within weeks. Have no fear, I've already chosen Warrior this time around, so they will most certainly get a giant black cock in the arsehole for Christmas.

My mage is low 570's and Im trying to figure out that point in stats where it is more advisable to switch to Fire. Am I looking at needing about 45% crit unbuffed or there abouts? Im at 31% but Im specced towards frost (haste/mastery). All the sites I used to go to for class help have apparently dried up. :/

(This wont matter in two weeks, I know.. But for now.)

is that 31% crit without any crit gems?

Warrior has been totally gutted now as a class. Barely any ability at all. Literally 3 buttons for fury

Maul_sl said:

Warrior has been totally gutted now as a class. Barely any ability at all. Literally 3 buttons for fury

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Hyperbole much?

New Fury: Execute, Raging Blow, Wild Strike, Charge, Storm Bolt, Heroic Leap, Blood Thirst, Berserker Rage (macro'd 1 button skills: Recklessness, Bloodbath).

Old Fury: Execute, Colossus Smash, Raging Blow, Wild Strike, Charge, Storm Bolt, Heroic Leap, Blood Thirst, Berserker Rage, Battle Shout (macro'd 1 button skills: Skull Banner, Recklessness, Bloodbath).

Without crit gems, yeah. Im geared for Frost atm. Pure offensive fire comes out to about 9k on Garrosh (with Frost spec gems) and Frost (with Frost spec Gems) comes out to about 14/15k on Garrosh. I know my DPS would be a bit better if I was geared towards fire, obviously - but I dont think it would make up for a 6k difference in damage. (Routine isnt in question, its followed to the T perfectly for each spec.)

Also, has anyone ever heard of G2A games?
Warlords of Draenor is 38 bucks there.Code is sent out 2 days prior to launch. Is this legit? Any idea? Ive already refunded WoD for a second free 90 boost so Im prepared to buy it.

+20 crit is about 1% crit. When I switched from Arms to Fury I was rocking about 35% crit. I'm currently at 50% crit unbuffed.

Sabbat_sl said:

Hyperbole much?

New Fury: Execute, Raging Blow, Wild Strike, Charge, Storm Bolt, Heroic Leap, Blood Thirst, Berserker Rage (macro'd 1 button skills: Recklessness, Bloodbath).

Old Fury: Execute, Colossus Smash, Raging Blow, Wild Strike, Charge, Storm Bolt, Heroic Leap, Blood Thirst, Berserker Rage, Battle Shout (macro'd 1 button skills: Skull Banner, Recklessness, Bloodbath).

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I take it you didn't play one in vanilla. It's a pale shitty comparison to what it used to be. The class feels like a complete joke to play now.

Maul_sl said:

I take it you didn't play one in vanilla. It's a pale shitty comparison to what it used to be. The class feels like a complete joke to play now.

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Fury warrior in vanilla? Did you even play vanilla?

Vorph_sl said:

Warrior
? Ravager?s damage has been reduced by 25%.
? Slam?s damage has been reduced by 30%.
? Whirlwind?s damage has been reduced by 30%.

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GOD DAMN!

Khane_sl said:

Fury warrior in vanilla? Did you even play vanilla?

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Haha, was thinking the same thing. I've never been a huge fan of playing a warrior, but I finally broke down and used one as an alt in MoP. From what little time I've spent dicking around the toon post 6.0 the changes are much needed after the total spammy cluster fuckery star aligning button masturbation fest that was pre 6.0 fury.

Commander Vimeseh_sl said:

Haha, was thinking the same thing. I've never been a huge fan of playing a warrior, but I finally broke down and used one as an alt in MoP. From what little time I've spent dicking around the toon post 6.0 the changes are much needed after the total spammy cluster fuckery star aligning button masturbation fest that was pre 6.0 fury.

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31/15/5 til I die. Cut we're MC raiders...we, ain't , got, no li-ife..

Though 31/7\13 was alright if you were also one of the ots. But I mostly wore leather anyway ??

Vanilla Fury was a lot of aggro deaths because you hit Heroic Strike more often than a tank, and it you did it mostly to convert your white attacks into un-glancing yellow attacks.

Sabbat_sl said:

Any class that I decide to play will be nerfed into uselessness within weeks. Have no fear, I've already chosen Warrior this time around, so they will most certainly get a giant black cock in the arsehole for Christmas.

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This mindset is just not reality anymore. Class balance (pre-patch aside) has never been better

Grayson Carlyle_sl said:

Vanilla Fury was a lot of aggro deaths because you hit Heroic Strike more often than a tank, and it you did it mostly to convert your white attacks into un-glancing yellow attacks.

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All I remember from a vanilla warrior is staring at my bars wondering when I might get some rage built again since it didn't generate for shit. Guess it depends at what point in vanilla though.

Maul_sl said:

I take it you didn't play one in vanilla. It's a pale shitty comparison to what it used to be. The class feels like a complete joke to play now.

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I did, actually. You see, my friends and I rolled up on Blackrock as Alliance (I really wanted to play an Orc Warrior, they wanted to play Night Elves). I ended up needing to playing Priest, we got to 60 and my friends said fuck this PvP shit, we're going home. So we all rolled up Alliance again on a PvE server. This time I at least wanted to get half of my play experience I so craved, and rolled a Warrior.

I think it was 31/5/15 I rolled with mostly, so that I could tank MC, dps when needed, and PvP whenever I could. I experimented with Fury during the BWL days, because before that, Arms was superior on every fucking level. I used Quel and Doom's Edge, because I never managed to get better weapons for it. I was using a 15/31/5 build so I could still tank, and remember ripping aggro off our prot warriors on Vael because of the HS spam.

If you think for a second that vanilla had a better rotation, you're completely out of your tree. I seriously doubt YOU ever played a warrior in vanilla at a raid level, or even PvP'd seriously.

Sword spec with Zin'Rhok and Hand of Justice? good times. I also favoured Edgemaster Handguards over anything else (bar Deathgrips for PvP) for gloves because that +weaponskill was soooo fucking good for dps.

In the end, I played ALL warrior specs from Westfall to MC to wiping on post Twin Emps trash (fuck Mindslayer packs). I quit the game for ages, and came back to play as a shaman in TBC... picking up my warrior again to PvP.

Pre 6.0, and post 5.0, Fury was reduced to pooling rage for a massive dump during Colossus Smash, and waiting around some more.

Post 6.0 removes that waiting, and I can actually hit some buttons now without my dps going down the shitter.

Good Friend of mine was Fury in Vanilla.. Did great dmg.. Kept up with Dagger rogues ( couldn't touch combat )

kaxfenix_sl said:

Good Friend of mine was Fury in Vanilla.. Did great dmg.. Kept up with Dagger rogues ( couldn't touch combat )

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Before or after the weapon normalisation changes? Combat daggers, or Backstab daggers? Before BWL or after it? Vanilla was actually a very, very long time. When I think vanilla, I normally think of MC with a little BWL thrown in.

But I don't think of Fury as being amazeballs after Indalamar made his 2 handed fury/slam video -- well, after that it was pretty awesome if you had a TF and say.. an Edge of Chaos.