Xbox Megathread

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xbox in a bit of freefall, hardware stagnating but even software sales (gamepass) down 7%. microsoft internally wanted 100m gamepass subs to be "the netflix of gaming" but that seems pretty much impossible at this point, the ceiling for people who will pay $15-30/mo for a library of games in NA/EU seems to be around 30m users and its likely going to start dropping as all the juicy signup deals ($1, conversions, etc) start vanishing.


The reality is I don't care about renting games because

1) almost all of them are shit
2) I prefer to spend time on specific games I'm interested in which makes the value proposition negative

this is literally their advertisement on their homepage:

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rhinohelix

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The reality is I don't care about renting games because

1) almost all of them are shit
2) I prefer to spend time on specific games I'm interested in which makes the value proposition negative

this is literally their advertisement on their homepage:

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It's a great deal if your content is great; if all of your games are old, woke, or suck, no one is going to buy in . Your hardware strategy "everything is an xbox" sucks btw. Series X was great hardware but you crippled it by makes the S and then failing to do anything else for 5 years while Steam Deck roared to life. Congrats on being Middle Woke Management of the games industry.

Fuck you guys for making a shitty Crackdown sequel as well.
 
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PC gamepass is fine. After my ultimate runs out and pc gamepass is under $10 I may still sub to it. Who knows i've pretty much just switched back to steam and playstation.

As for the Xbox, I dont think ive turned it back on in years.
 
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No MLB The Show 25 on Game Pass this year (or at least at launch)... Yowzers. Big bummer and a big loss.
 
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No MLB The Show 25 on Game Pass this year (or at least at launch)... Yowzers. Big bummer and a big loss.
I saw that, really glad I cancelled Gamepass. They're getting rid of all the season reset bullshit and PS4 and XBone support which is good, but I may pass this year.
 

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I saw that, really glad I cancelled Gamepass. They're getting rid of all the season reset bullshit and PS4 and XBone support which is good, but I may pass this year.
Yeah, I'm glad they're dumping the seasons stuff. Last couple of years have been "meh".
 

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So I finally got around to playing the two upcoming gamepass games I was most looking forward to trying out, Sniper Elite Resistance and Orcs Must Die Deathtrap and wow, both are a big disappointment that are undoubtedly nowhere near as good as past entries.

Sniper Elite was the least offensive as it at least still played alright, but holy shit it's amazing how they could make the game look so awful, no joke looks like an Xbox 360 game and I am far from the only person to make that comment looking at the Xbox reviews for it. Level design is also not as good as past entries, felt like going back to the first two games with how much smaller and more linear they feel. That and the characters are lame, new MC has some lame cockney accent and talks too much during the campaign missions and the resistance is led by your typical strong black woman who talks like someone trying to fake a French accent. I just couldn't be bothered to play it for long, especially given how there's only two survival maps and it looks like it will be a slow grind to unlock any new weapons.

Then there's the new Orcs Must Die. Holy shit what a piece of shit that is. First thing I noticed was the gay as hell DEI characters you are forced to play as. Then I start it and I am just pooped straight into some lame MMO hub world with even more lame ass characters who only exist to offer lame MMO upgrades you would need to slowly grind away for. Then the level design is simply awful and clearly centered around having a big group of people as it's got no balancing for solo or even two people trying to play it. Whole look and feel was like they're desperately trying to copy Fortnite or Overwatch or some shit. I liked the previous games for what they were but this is just some straight up garbage.

So yeah, that's the only two new games I wanted to play before my Gamepass expires, and seeing the quality of these latest games on offer I feel better than ever letting it expire. Fuck these new video games, I'm sticking to my backlog and whatever I can find that actually appeals to me, and apparently I am not going to find that on Gamepass anymore anyways. Today's gaming industry is cooked.
 
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Sold my Series X to a friend's kid for $300. Kid was super excited. I bet I didn't have 5 hours total play time on the thing since I bought it early last year when they were easy to find. I kept PC Game Pass though. PC, Switch, Steam Deck and PS5 for me.
 
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rhinohelix

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Sold my Series X to a friend's kid for $300. Kid was super excited. I bet I didn't have 5 hours total play time on the thing since I bought it early last year when they were easy to find. I kept PC Game Pass though. PC, Switch, Steam Deck and PS5 for me.
I didn't mean to ignore my consoles but over time from 2020 I have just moved back to being almost completely PC-centric, particularly since I got a 7900XTX. I love the console UI and the simplicity of the store and connections. Over time, though, the use case for the consoles has for me fallen away; the hardware has obviously not kept up, exclusives are almost all gone, content across all platforms has fallen dramatically off, per our discussion here.

"Everything is an Xbox" is so much meaningless crap: You've just so destroyed your brand with the Xbox One moment and never had a recovery like Sony did with PS4. GamePass as Netflix isn't going to work, either, as it hasn't worked for anyone in streaming other than for Netflix. I like GamePass as a concept but I almost never use it any longer, if I ever did very much other than looking for older games I didn't own on PC. It feels like a great deal but if you don't have a regular stream of desirable content, what's the point of an all you can eat buffet if you don't like anything that's been served?

Where does the Microsoft train end? It feels like they missed the chance to launch a MS branded handheld ala Steamdeck; they haven't found a way to correct their brand issues with the console and may never be able to with their dual commitment to the PC. They may be in trouble even on the PC front if Steam launches a SteamOS "console" device that attacks Windows. Microsoft needs to do something other than buy publishers if they want to survive.
 
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pretty weird. i assume around the same power as steam deck but runs windows instead.
 
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pretty weird. i assume around the same power as steam deck but runs windows instead.


If it acts like the Steam Deck where you can store games that would be great. If it acts like the PS Portal then its pointless when you can just use the app on a tablet.
 

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There's no way it'd be that bulky if it was just a Cloud Gaming device.
 
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Kaige

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There's no way it'd be that bulky if it was just a Cloud Gaming device.

I think that image is their own. Under the picture on the article's website it says: "A mock up of what the Xbox partner handheld could look like, we believe to be codenamed 'Keenan'."
 

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There's no way it'd be that bulky if it was just a Cloud Gaming device.
So tired of this lame cloud gaming bullshit for a handheld. If I wanted to be limited to that I would just buy a controller attachment for my iphone and game on that because honestly it can do that as well as anything so what's the point in having a dedicated device for it?

This whole gen is just making me want to be entirely PC with maybe the exception of having a Switch 2 for next gen. Heck Microsoft themselves recently announced how the next Xbox will be more like a Windows PC so why even bother with all the limitations an Xbox would impose? I already got all the backwards compatibility I could want or get from my 360, One, and Series consoles, and they aren't even going to be doing anything in the way of proper exclusives anymore either. As much as I am not a fan of Playstation anymore I have to admit that it seems to make a lot more sense to have one next gen if I am still interested in a home console.

I guess this is just going to be Xbox going forward, it's glory years as a gaming console platform is simply behind it. Now it's all about being some service.
 
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Having not owned a true console since Sega Genesis, what would you guys recommend Xbox or ps5?
 

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Having not owned a true console since Sega Genesis, what would you guys recommend Xbox or ps5?

Almost everything Xbox can be had via PC (including handhelds like steam deck), tablet, phone etc with Gamepass.

If you must own a console PS5 at least gives you much earlier access to exclusives before they do PC ports.

They are both kind of pointless if you're patient and can hook up a hybrid gaming/media PC or handheld like steam deck to a TV imo since you can easily controller game that way and get much more out of it.
 
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spronk

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Having not owned a true console since Sega Genesis, what would you guys recommend Xbox or ps5?

steam deck + upcoming switch 2 esp if you are on the go a lot

steam deck + ps5 if you don't give a fuck about nintendo games although the number of games you can play on ps5 you can't play on PC is like... single digits

build out your own gaming PC if you like playing a lot on steam deck
 

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I'd only consider a PS5 if you're willing to spend the ridiculous amount of money Sony wants for the Pro (+disc drive +stand). Series X is better than the regular PS5 in every way.
 

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So PS5 then? Seems to be the consensus from both threads.
I’d go PS5 over Xbox since that gives you all PS exclusives and Xbox is putting their games everywhere (PC and PS5). The pro is nice but it’s not a huge deal yet. It may be if you are into GTA. Other than that, can’t really go wrong.

I gave my Series X to my son. Never played it. It was PC or PS5 usually. My next console will be a Switch 2 and then I’m probably done with them.