Zaara
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We learned about Native American erasure in high school. This was a diocesan-run academy with a our AP history guy being a history writer focused on King Philip’s War and the direct aftermath, and we spent almost half of the year on that focus. I know to ab absolute certainty that he cast a wider net and briefly discussed the different assimilation programs imposed on natives in different areas, the northern schools included. They were doing the same exact shit on the same scale in New England but we’re talking about entire villages set up for bringing the Indians into civilized culture.
I don’t understand this hill you want to die on. We literally just spent the last decade finding out just how many priests in the church were sexual predators. We are talking about the psychology of people dedicated to God, oftentimes dealing with people who they believed and understood to be a lesser form of human that had to be literally handheld to come into god’s grace. We are talking about otherwise child-bearing women with no sexual outlet living in the middle of fucking nowhere. Did they all go crazy? No, nobody’s saying that. But insisting there was no fucked up shit happening ever and insisting that the ‘proof’ needs to come in a format you can instantly digest is just fucking lazy. I saw with my own eyes when our VP walked into our religion class, pulled out deacon/head of services to escort from the premises in 2003 during the Cardinal Law scandal. A fucking kid diddler made it to the head of services at a prestigious school. The infestation of the church with bad actors cannot be understated.
The nuns in the school system here got phased out when I was a child but my sister was taught by some habit-wearers (I myself was taught by the lay and several who had rescinded their church vows but remained working for the diocese.) There was stories from the old generation of terror nuns that got off on hitting kids. I was shown an area in one of the rooms where they used to make kids kneel in sharp gravel as a disciplinary action. I’m not saying there’s a small step between ‘nuns thwapping delinquents in the 70s’ versus ‘kid diddling fetish nuns’, but your absolute denial of a historical precedent for physical and sexual abuse in various catholic run institutions just. Doesn’t hold water, period.
If podcasts don’t work and you can’t just google a research paper whose conclusion is ‘the Catholic Church employed various shitty people throughout history’, I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s just an uncomfortable concept you don’t want to believe because it somehow lessens the legitimacy of the church, but I don’t need to tell you how insane that is.
I don’t understand this hill you want to die on. We literally just spent the last decade finding out just how many priests in the church were sexual predators. We are talking about the psychology of people dedicated to God, oftentimes dealing with people who they believed and understood to be a lesser form of human that had to be literally handheld to come into god’s grace. We are talking about otherwise child-bearing women with no sexual outlet living in the middle of fucking nowhere. Did they all go crazy? No, nobody’s saying that. But insisting there was no fucked up shit happening ever and insisting that the ‘proof’ needs to come in a format you can instantly digest is just fucking lazy. I saw with my own eyes when our VP walked into our religion class, pulled out deacon/head of services to escort from the premises in 2003 during the Cardinal Law scandal. A fucking kid diddler made it to the head of services at a prestigious school. The infestation of the church with bad actors cannot be understated.
The nuns in the school system here got phased out when I was a child but my sister was taught by some habit-wearers (I myself was taught by the lay and several who had rescinded their church vows but remained working for the diocese.) There was stories from the old generation of terror nuns that got off on hitting kids. I was shown an area in one of the rooms where they used to make kids kneel in sharp gravel as a disciplinary action. I’m not saying there’s a small step between ‘nuns thwapping delinquents in the 70s’ versus ‘kid diddling fetish nuns’, but your absolute denial of a historical precedent for physical and sexual abuse in various catholic run institutions just. Doesn’t hold water, period.
If podcasts don’t work and you can’t just google a research paper whose conclusion is ‘the Catholic Church employed various shitty people throughout history’, I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s just an uncomfortable concept you don’t want to believe because it somehow lessens the legitimacy of the church, but I don’t need to tell you how insane that is.
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