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Aldarion · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
It must be nice to have so much moral clarity based on nothing. A show depicts one person being unethical you jump in with "No this never happened and I know because I know. If I Google it and find out I'm wrong, that means I'm even more right because history is just liberals lying but my information that came out of my ass is 100% true."

How did I know you'd be the first one to come in here defending this obvious propaganda

Are there any parts of the leftist revised version of American history that you reject? Or are you just 100% all in? It'd save time to clarify ahead of time

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edit: as is often the case, Cad states it better, in less inflammatory terms.

Its fair to say I get triggered by this. Once I got to watch the historical revision happening in real time (from BLM to J6), I started noticing the exact same patterns in leftist revision of older parts of American history. Each time I discover a new area where they've started changing the version of history we all grew up with, I get a fresh experience of this "what? where did this bullshit come from?". It sucks. And it sucks watching seemingly everyone around me nod at the new bullshit story that just emerged from thin air as if it was always that way.

Its like the Mandela effect, except with the history of Western Civilization instead of underwear logos.

Srathor · Mar 11, 2025

The history you grew up on was fake and gay as well. All the documents were written by the winners, not who was right.
People are assholes.
The End.

Big Phoenix · Mar 11, 2025

Bald Brah said:
Imagine that, shows about straight white people are doing well.

Revolutionary idea, I know.

Harrison Ford is Jewish.

Bald Brah · Mar 11, 2025

Big Phoenix said:
Harrison Ford is Jewish.

O.J. Simpson, not a Jew

But guess who is? Hall of famer Rod Carew, he converted

We got Ann Landers and her sister, Dear Abby

Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish, not too shabby

Some people think that Ebenezer Scrooge is

Well, he's not, but guess who is?

All three Stooges

So many Jews are in showbiz

Tom Cruise isn't, but I think his agent is

Palum · Mar 11, 2025

Cad said:
Of course bad things happened, but these type of scenes are made to show the horrors or lack of empathy (by modern standards, of course) in order to push a message. The messaging is really obvious when it happens.

Just like how the indians are mostly noble and just wanting to live in peace and the white men are all bloodthirsty.

Brutul gets felt up at the airport on the regular but can't imagine a world where people would have to be searched coming into the country in an undignified way. Sounds about right.

Cad · Mar 11, 2025

Palum said:
Brutul gets felt up at the airport on the regular but can't imagine a world where people would have to be searched coming into the country in an undignified way. Sounds about right.

Grok says:

In the 1920s, Ellis Island medical exams for immigrants were primarily visual and surface-level, with no documented routine vaginal examinations. Women underwent the same rapid screenings as men, with additional attention to pregnancy or moral status triggering detention, not invasive probes. Any gynecological scrutiny, if it happened, would have been exceptional—e.g., suspected venereal disease in a secondary exam—and likely limited to external observation due to time, resource, and cultural constraints. The depiction of thorough vaginal exams is more fiction than fact, unsupported by historical records from the period.

The only sources it found of vaginal exams or invasive nude exams were from posts about 1923.

Calling bullshit on this whole thing.

BrutulTM · Mar 11, 2025

Aldarion said:
How did I know you'd be the first one to come in here defending this obvious propaganda

Are there any parts of the leftist revised version of American history that you reject? Or are you just 100% all in? It'd save time to clarify ahead of time

---------

edit: as is often the case, Cad states it better, in less inflammatory terms.

Its fair to say I get triggered by this. Once I got to watch the historical revision happening in real time (from BLM to J6), I started noticing the exact same patterns in leftist revision of older parts of American history. Each time I discover a new area where they've started changing the version of history we all grew up with, I get a fresh experience of this "what? where did this bullshit come from?". It sucks. And it sucks watching seemingly everyone around me nod at the new bullshit story that just emerged from thin air as if it was always that way.

Its like the Mandela effect, except with the history of Western Civilization instead of underwear logos.

But the version of history we grew up with was a fairy tale too. You have to look at everything critically, not just the stuff that doesn't fit your world view. I don't disagree that the whole "noble savage" myth that is portrayed in a lot of modern-day TV shows is not representative but neither is the old western formula where some heroic white guy always comes to the rescue in the name of truth and justice. I could be wrong but I doubt you have ever flown into a rage over that one. There were peaceful Indians and psychopathically brutal ones. Same for white people. By 1923 though, Quanah Parker and Sitting Bull were long dead and the Indians were a totally defeated people but they were still being treated very badly by the government and the people who dealt with them directly, especially in the case of the residential schools which is well documented but hasn't been shown much in pop culture as far as I know.

Cad · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
especially in the case of the residential schools which is well documented but hasn't been shown much in pop culture as far as I know.

Is this kinda like how black people are treated "so badly" by white people today in schools, by expelling them more, disciplining them more, refusing to teach them (evidenced by poor math and science scores), etc etc?

How do you know the indians weren't just ungovernable assholes and the measures in the residential schools weren't a result of their behavior rather than the reverse?

We see the same narrative play out over and over and over again - evil white people doing evil white people things, but the reality on the ground is always different.

Don't buy it.

BrutulTM · Mar 11, 2025

Cad said:
Is this kinda like how black people are treated "so badly" by white people today in schools, by expelling them more, disciplining them more, refusing to teach them (evidenced by poor math and science scores), etc etc?

How do you know the indians weren't just ungovernable assholes and the measures in the residential schools weren't a result of their behavior rather than the reverse?

We see the same narrative play out over and over and over again - evil white people doing evil white people things, but the reality on the ground is always different.

Don't buy it.

We're talking about children. Way too many of them died or were physically and sexually abused. This isn't a hill to die on bro. I know you don't think it's impossible to believe that priests and nuns abused children. You can believe in propaganda without believing everything you don't like is propaganda.

Cad · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
We're talking about children. Way too many of them died or were physically and sexually abused. This isn't a hill to die on bro. I know you don't think it's impossible to believe that priests and nuns abused children. You can believe in propaganda without believing everything you don't like is propaganda.

Is it impossible to believe that it happened? Of course not. Is that why indians are the way they are? Also of course not.

It's easy to believe that dealing with indians attracted sadistic assholes as well. But what they choose to highlight and show belies their messaging. And the messaging is consistently white man bad.

For example, they could have shown mostly good white nuns/priests, with a few bad apples... mostly good indians with a few bad apples... and the interplay between the inherent behavioral issues of the indians combined with the shitty behavior of certain of the priests/nuns. Instead it's like a goddamn medieval torture center run by people that would make Mengele blush. The over the top messaging is bullshit and shouldn't be accepted.

Palum · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
But the version of history we grew up with was a fairy tale too. You have to look at everything critically, not just the stuff that doesn't fit your world view. I don't disagree that the whole "noble savage" myth that is portrayed in a lot of modern-day TV shows is not representative but neither is the old western formula where some heroic white guy always comes to the rescue in the name of truth and justice. I could be wrong but I doubt you have ever flown into a rage over that one. There were peaceful Indians and psychopathically brutal ones. Same for white people. By 1923 though, Quanah Parker and Sitting Bull were long dead and the Indians were a totally defeated people but they were still being treated very badly by the government and the people who dealt with them directly, especially in the case of the residential schools which is well documented but hasn't been shown much in pop culture as far as I know.

You have such a WMB complex it's sickening. Same type of person who looks at literal video footage of the late 1800s and say 'nah not real there was always a lot of crime in cities'. Fuck off man.

BrutulTM · Mar 11, 2025

Cad said:
Is it impossible to believe that it happened? Of course not. Is that why indians are the way they are? Also of course not.

It's easy to believe that dealing with indians attracted sadistic assholes as well. But what they choose to highlight and show belies their messaging. And the messaging is consistently white man bad.

For example, they could have shown mostly good white nuns/priests, with a few bad apples... mostly good indians with a few bad apples... and the interplay between the inherent behavioral issues of the indians combined with the shitty behavior of certain of the priests/nuns. Instead it's like a goddamn medieval torture center run by people that would make Mengele blush. The over the top messaging is bullshit and shouldn't be accepted.

Give this podcast a listen. We all know Peterson is a liberal commie but you might be able to get something out of the story anyway. The residential school part is the first half hour.

Palum · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
Give this podcast a listen. We all know Peterson is a liberal commie but you might be able to get something out of the story anyway.

lmao kermit the frog, get out of here

BrutulTM · Mar 11, 2025

Palum said:
lmao kermit the frog, get out of here

It's an interview. Peterson is just asking questions.

Cad · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
Give this podcast a listen. We all know Peterson is a liberal commie but you might be able to get something out of the story anyway. The residential school part is the first half hour.

I'm not listening to an hour+ podcast, if you have points to make, make them.

zzeris · Mar 11, 2025

BrutulTM said:
Give this podcast a listen. We all know Peterson is a liberal commie but you might be able to get something out of the story anyway. The residential school part is the first half hour.

You know that's an interview with the Kwakwaka’wakw people in Canada, right? Did you notice the Canadian accent on both dudes? That the residential school bullshit is a Canadian thing? Did you also know that lying Indians in Canada tried to destroy Christian residential schools based off terrible lies?

‘Biggest fake news story in Canada’: Kamloops mass grave debunked by academics

Since last year’s announcement of mass graves of over 200 indigenous children, there have been no excavations at Kamloops nor any dates set for any such work to commence. Nothing has been taken out…

nypost.com

You never answered his points either. Why don't they show some bad nuns, priests, white men, etc and some really good ones? Why are The Noble Savage, Misunderstood Tranny, Holy Lesbian, and other laughable heroes included in most in not all of these 'stories'? How did you have 100% moral clarity on the Ellis Island bullshit that is based off nothing factual? How many times have you kneeled for BLM? You can be honest. You're always the first to defend liberal bullshit in any thread you're in.

TomServo · Mar 11, 2025

zzeris said:
You know that's an interview with the Kwakwaka’wakw people in Canada, right? Did you notice the Canadian accent on both dudes? That the residential school bullshit is a Canadian thing? Did you also know that lying Indians in Canada tried to destroy Christian residential schools based off terrible lies?

‘Biggest fake news story in Canada’: Kamloops mass grave debunked by academics

Since last year’s announcement of mass graves of over 200 indigenous children, there have been no excavations at Kamloops nor any dates set for any such work to commence. Nothing has been taken out…

nypost.com

You never answered his points either. Why don't they show some bad nuns, priests, white men, etc and some really good ones? Why are The Noble Savage, Misunderstood Tranny, Holy Lesbian, and other laughable heroes included in most in not all of these 'stories'? How did you have 100% moral clarity on the Ellis Island bullshit that is based off nothing factual? How many times have you kneeled for BLM? You can be honest. You're always the first to defend liberal bullshit in any thread you're in.

Is brutal trolling? he seems to take a moonbat like stance everytime.

zzeris · Mar 11, 2025

TomServo said:
Is brutal trolling? he seems to take a moonbat like stance everytime.

If he is, he's the best I've ever seen. His stances in the Covid thread are legendarily bad over an entire year plus. He stuck with it like a pit bull for that entire time with fairly frequent posting. He's added to his legend, but nothing tops that period. This is the mild 'I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about' Brutal, but he could be The Master. He'd be better than Keyser Soze though.

Bald Brah · Mar 12, 2025

zzeris said:
You know that's an interview with the Kwakwaka’wakw people in Canada, right? Did you notice the Canadian accent on both dudes? That the residential school bullshit is a Canadian thing? Did you also know that lying Indians in Canada tried to destroy Christian residential schools based off terrible lies?

‘Biggest fake news story in Canada’: Kamloops mass grave debunked by academics

Since last year’s announcement of mass graves of over 200 indigenous children, there have been no excavations at Kamloops nor any dates set for any such work to commence. Nothing has been taken out…

nypost.com

You never answered his points either. Why don't they show some bad nuns, priests, white men, etc and some really good ones? Why are The Noble Savage, Misunderstood Tranny, Holy Lesbian, and other laughable heroes included in most in not all of these 'stories'? How did you have 100% moral clarity on the Ellis Island bullshit that is based off nothing factual? How many times have you kneeled for BLM? You can be honest. You're always the first to defend liberal bullshit in any thread you're in.

Who gives a fuck about canada? We killed or assimilated all our aboriginals. At least the longest holdouts have casino empires now. Good for them, they earned it.

Big Phoenix · Mar 12, 2025

Imagine thinking trying to uplift people who didnt even discover written language was a bad thing.

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