2013 NFL Offseason and Draft

Araysar_sl said:

If Jerome Simpson wants any tips, former Bear Sam Hurd can offer him plenty.

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If you hadn't heard, Simpson doesn't need tips:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/70...e-simpson-home

Daezuel_sl said:

Rams signed Jake Long.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/90...-st-louis-rams

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Great pick up for them. He's better off imo getting away from wco/zone blocking scheme. Just has to stay healthy.

Araysar_sl said:

So how did Greg Jennings manage to trick the Vikings into giving him a 5 year, $48M contract?

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His numbers from '08-'10 were pretty nice. Of course, I guess the question is will he get back to playing 16 games a season again.

Pats' 2013/2014 opponents, the highlighted teams to me represent potential losses.

Thankfully the AFC East sucks so 10-6 or even 9-7 ought to cut it:

Have you seen the movie Big Fan, Azeth?

hah no but i just google'd and I'll watch it if Netflix has it available. patton oswalt is pretty funny

As much as I love to hate Catler/Cutler (And I'm even a Chief's fan who watched Denver struggle with him as QB), I'd really love to see the Bears do well this year.

Tarrant_sl said:

Anyone touch on this yet here?

http://espn.go.com/chicago/conversat...-change-absurd

Just what the NFL needs, yet another fucking rule that can be interpreted different by any given official in any given play. Shit pisses me off.

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Trying to cut down on the concussions. Sad to think one of the best runs you will ever see, would have been called back on a penalty if this rule was in effect.






Earl needs a wheelchair these days.


NFL is trying to cover their asses from these hits that will wind up costing them big bucks down the road. Guys are killing themselves over concussion symptoms, something has to give.

Tarrant_sl said:

Anyone touch on this yet here?

http://espn.go.com/chicago/conversat...-change-absurd

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Yeah a few posts above yours.

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...l=1#post138858

Araysar_sl said:

I think anyones numbers would look decent if you had Rodgers throwing to you. Should look great catching passes from Cassel, Ponder or whatever other reject they roll out onto the field. Can't wait to conquer the NFC North this year.

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I can buy this, even if he didn't have a 1,000 yard receiver last year (made it work with a bunch of injuries). Jennings did lead the team in receiving yards those 3 years, and the only other guys to post 1k+ seasons since '08 for them was Donald Driver twice, and Jordy Nelson once (in '11)

Tomlin not a believer in read-option

the quote.

"I think it's the flavor of the day," Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday at the NFL owners meetings. "We will see if it's the flavor of the year.We'll see if guys are committed to getting their guys hit."

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I always like when coaches echo the sentiments of us message board gurus.

Seems like Mike/Kyle Shanahan have already demonstrated that they could give a shit about their guys getting hit.

I also don't know how often the Niners are running the read option, but Kaepernick had what seemed like an awful lot of designed run plays. I know towards the back end of the season (after his concussion against Atlanta), the number of designed runs RG3 had called went WAY down, to probably 3 or so a game. That didn't stop him from running on his own, though.

Elurin_sl said:

Seems like Mike/Kyle Shanahan have already demonstrated that they could give a shit about their guys getting hit.

I also don't know how often the Niners are running the read option, but Kaepernick had what seemed like an awful lot of designed run plays. I know towards the back end of the season (after his concussion against Atlanta), the number of designed runs RG3 had called went WAY down, to probably 3 or so a game. That didn't stop him from running on his own, though.

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Both of the plays RG3 got hurt on were plays he could have avoided contact easily too. Nothing wrong with the read option...you see what it did to GB when San Fran was able to get Kaeperbro to the outside so much. Then you saw what it did to Atlanta when they decided they were going to "force" the Niners into only the hand-off option as much as possible...which was fine for limiting Kaep's rushing yards, but left them 1 guy short in the box to stop the normal run. Design it well and execute it well, and anything stops becoming a gimmick. Someone will come up with a way to counter it, then those offenses will have to adapt to the counter.

You are giving one game examples of a long term issue. You put your QB in position to get hit more than normal and he WILL get hurt eventually.

edit: This is not to say I'm wholly against the thing. There's only so many great pocket passers available. When you don't have a Brady/Manning/Brees and your choices are to get some shitty pocket guy like Cassel or play a style that exposes a better-but-different QB to more risk I think you HAVE to go with the latter option. It's the difference between trying to win and trying to stay mediocre.

The read option won't be stopped any time soon. The thing with it is the qb doesn't have to ever keep the ball for it to be effective. Like Merrith said, just the threat of it forces a DE/OLB to play the qb rather than the rb. I don't buy the option quarterbacks getting hit and injured so much more than traditional passers either; they just have to have a brain about it. RG3 got hurt because he always tried to pick up extra yardage on scrambles and kept getting pounded for it, whereas Wilson and Kaepernick rarely get hit because they slide or run out of bounds. The worst hits Kaerpernick took were all when he was getting sacked in the pocket, not when he was running the ball.

Grimmlokk_sl said:

You are giving one game examples of a long term issue. You put your QB in position to get hit more than normal and he WILL get hurt eventually.

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Well just passing the ball puts a qb in position to get hurt since the pass rushers and blitzers are going straight for him. I don't see why a pure pocket passer who throws it 35-40 times a game would be any less likely to get hurt than a mobile qb who runs it 6-8 times and throws it 25-30 times. I would think the mobile quarterback probably has even less of a chance of getting hurt because he'd be better at evading the pass rush when the pocket breaks down.

Edit: Kaepernick got sacked 17 times in 10 starts and Smith got sacked 29 times in 9 starts.