2013 NFL Offseason and Draft

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Agenor

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Next year is the year to get a QB. Jets should be so bad next year they may have the pick of the litter. I have no doubt the Jets front office will blow it though. If the Jets draft a QB with either of those 1st picks, you may see Jet fans jumping off the GWB.

They IMO need to draft d line help bad. They have had zero pass rush for a few years now, and Rex is a D first kinda guy. They may try to move up and grab Millner also.
 

Loser Araysar

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jets drafted Sanchez.

i wonder if they will be able to top that with their next QB pick
 

Famm

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Next year is the year to get a QB. Jets should be so bad next year they may have the pick of the litter. I have no doubt the Jets front office will blow it though. If the Jets draft a QB with either of those 1st picks, you may see Jet fans jumping off the GWB.

They IMO need to draft d line help bad. They have had zero pass rush for a few years now, and Rex is a D first kinda guy. They may try to move up and grab Millner also.
Don't think Milliner could fall to 9?

Wasn't Rex the biggest Revis guy in the organization too though? I though this move was an indication that they were yanking Rex's control to a degree.
 

Agenor

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Don't think Milliner could fall to 9?

Wasn't Rex the biggest Revis guy in the organization too though? I though this move was an indication that they were yanking Rex's control to a degree.
I think Lions get him at 5. Who knows though, all the smoke screens are up now, and word is you may see 4 OL go in the first 5 picks. Lions badly need OL help, but they might just miss out.

Hard to say if they neutered Rex's control. The owner loves him, and honesty who fires a GM, and not the whole coaching staff. If anything I think they brought in a puppet for Rex. Time will tell on that. As far as Revis goes, if he doesn't get hurt I think he is still a Jet. To much dead money though on the team, and just to much of a risk to drop 15m per on a DB coming off major knee surgery. They are fortunate Tampa gave them a 1.
 

moontayle

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Interesting note about the draft success of all the teams during the 2006-2009 period. If you take having player still on the roster as a sign of a good draft, then GB and ATL are at the top:

Players left from 2006-09 Drafts:
Atlanta: 12 (9 starters)
Green Bay: 12 (9 starters)
Baltimore: 7 (7 starters)
Kansas City: 7 (7 starters)
Minnesota: 7 (6 starters)
San Francisco: 7 (6 starters)
Tennessee: 7 (5 starters)
Carolina: 6 (6 starters)
New Orleans: 6 (5 starters)
Detroit: 5 (5 starters)
Pittsburgh: 5 (4 starters)
Philadelphia: 5 (4 starters)
New England: 5 (3 starters)
Washington: 5 (3 starters)
Chicago: 5 (3 starters)
NY Giants: 5 (2 starters)
Buffalo: 4 (4 starters)
Miami: 4 (4 starters)
NY Jets: 4 (4 starters)
Cleveland: 4 (4 starters)
Jacksonville: 4 (4 starters)
Indianapolis: 4 (3 starters)
Houston: 4 (3 starters)
Tampa Bay: 4 (3 starters)
Dallas: 4 (3 starters)
San Diego: 4 (2 starters)
Cincinnati: 4 (2 starters)
Denver: 4 (1 starter)
Arizona: 3 (3 starters)
Seattle: 3 (3 starters)
St. Louis: 2 (2 starters)
Oakland: 2 (2 starters)
 

Famm

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I think KC and Tenn are evidence that there's a bit more going on there. Detroit and Philly kinda too....
 

Agenor

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Those numbers overall are scary. 4 year period, and more than half the league has 3 or less starters drafted over that period.
 

Rengak

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The Texans are too good at drafting and most of the players drafted from 2006-2009 are now starters on other teams.
 

Grimmlokk

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Paper today had an article about how bad the Steelers '08 draft class was. When Ryan Mundy is the bright spot you know shit went south.

2 words for you: Limas. Sweed.
 

Disp_sl

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49ers 08 draft was terrible too. Only player worth a damn was Josh Morgan in the 6th round. All the others either washed out of the league or are backups/shitty.
 

Merrith

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I think Lions get him at 5. Who knows though, all the smoke screens are up now, and word is you may see 4 OL go in the first 5 picks. Lions badly need OL help, but they might just miss out.

Hard to say if they neutered Rex's control. The owner loves him, and honesty who fires a GM, and not the whole coaching staff. If anything I think they brought in a puppet for Rex. Time will tell on that. As far as Revis goes, if he doesn't get hurt I think he is still a Jet. To much dead money though on the team, and just to much of a risk to drop 15m per on a DB coming off major knee surgery. They are fortunate Tampa gave them a 1.
With all the hype about the top group of OL, you could see teams panic a little and there be a run on all the top level ones pretty early on. Pressure to grab one before they're all gone might set in.
 

moontayle

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49ers 08 draft was terrible too. Only player worth a damn was Josh Morgan in the 6th round. All the others either washed out of the league or are backups/shitty.
I actually got the whole thing from an article about the lack of players from that period still around on the Cowboys. The worst of the lot was '09. 12 players drafted, zero still around.

You can correlate successful drafting with overall success, especially in regards to first round talent. Both the 49ers and the Ravens had a decent number of players who were drafted in the first round (not necessarily by them), blue chip players so to speak, and both saw themselves in the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, teams like the Browns whiff a lot on first rounders and consequently are a substance that closely resembles Brown.
 

Gravy

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I think KCand Tenn areevidence that there's a bit more going on there. Detroit and Philly kinda too....
I'm really hoping that evidence has been solved; the Chiefs really needed a new GM, Head Coach, and QB. Hopefully, those issues have been addressed. Chiefs really do have some great athletic talent, they just haven't been a 'team' in quite a few years.
 

Zajeer

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So as a Bucs fan, I'm pretty torn about the Revis trade. I think the Bucs got the better end of the deal with just trading a 1st this year and a 3rd next year. If the Bucs were going to grab Milliner, they would have had to trade their first, 2nd, and 5th this year just to get up to the top 10 to have a chance at Milliner. And really, Milliner isn't as good as Revis is in his prime, though it remains to be seen if Revis can come back to his previous form. I imagine Revis at 75% of his previous self probably is still a #1 corner in the league, so I don't mind the draft picks for a starting #1 CB.

What I do have a problem with is the contract. Sure, its risk free for having no guaranteed money, however it puts the Bucs in an odd situation. Scenario 1) Revis is back to his old form and after year 2 he demands a contract with a lot of guaranteed money. This scenario isn't that bad really, because the Bucs will still be flush with cap space to pay the man. Scenario 2) Revis isn't recovered at all from the injury, so the Bucs cut him. This scenario is kinda bad considering they have spent 2 picks + 32 million to find out he sucks. Scenario 3) Revis is somewhere below his previous form, but is still good enough to be a #1 CB, however, he's not worth the 16 million/year. This is probably the worst situation, because Revis is unlikely to take a pay cut and the Bucs won't want to pay him the 16M a year. So there's a chance he gets cut, and some other team picks him up for 8-12M a year instead, and he's still a solid starter.

So yeah, the contract, while it seems good from a salary cap standpoint right now, may provide headaches 2+ years down the road once we finally see if Revis is back to his old form or not.
 

moontayle

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I'm really hoping that evidence has been solved; the Chiefs really needed a new GM, Head Coach, and QB. Hopefully, those issues have been addressed. Chiefs really do have some great athletic talent, they just haven't been a 'team' in quite a few years.
I'd have doubts that Reid is the answer on the HC front though. That said, a change of scenery and a move away from the absolute hellhole that is Philadelphia sports might do wonders for his ability to coach. Though expect to be yelling a lot at your screen for his late game management decisions.
 

Famm

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So this dude Rolando McClain that we picked up from Oakland for jack squat due largely to character issues, has already been arrested again. Great.
 

Gilgamel

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I think I would trade a couple of years off my life to get Steve McNair all over again in the modern NFL. This VY/KFC/Hasselbald troika has made me a sad panda, and I'm just happy Locker hasn't killed any innocent children in the stands yet with an errant throw.

I honestly don't think I really like a single player on my team. When CJ isn't being a dumb shit and Kenny Britt isn't committing crimes we are so incredibly boring.