A Song of Ice and Fire (Released Spoilers)

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I've not ever finished The wheel of Time. I want to say the last book I read was crossroads of Twilight maybe. I just remember it was just boring as hell, and the only thing that was going on was Matt was going to go into some other dimension to fight lizard people or something to rescue Moraine maybe.

I haven't read them in like 10-15 years. I thought about picking them back up just to conclude it. I think I have all of them on audio other than the last bunch where Sanderson finished it out.

Is it worth checking out? I know there's first four or five books are fantastic, the third probably being my favorite. Then he just goes off the rails much like Martin does. However at least his story has been told, good or bad, it's at least been completed, and that chicken wing eating duck can't make that claim.
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I think it is worth picking up because Sanderson does about as good a job as anyone could have done to finish that monstrosity of a story. He had Jordan's extensive notes about every single character and the last chapter was written by Jordan years and years before he died. What you realize is that Sanderson really cuts to the chase and gets things rolling and it still takes 3 gigantic books to finish the story. It would have taken Jordan at least 6 more books and 20 years to complete and probably would not have been as good. I actually think that Sanderson finished it better than Jordan could have himself in a whole "forest for the trees" kind of way. It is why I think he could do the same for a living GRRM if Martin had a shred of humility and desire to get the finished narrative out there before he dies.
 
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OU Ariakas said:
I think it is worth picking up because Sanderson does about as good a job as anyone could have done to finish that monstrosity of a story. He had Jordan's extensive notes about every single character and the last chapter was written by Jordan years and years before he died. What you realize is that Sanderson really cuts to the chase and gets things rolling and it still takes 3 gigantic books to finish the story. It would have taken Jordan at least 6 more books and 20 years to complete and probably would not have been as good. I actually think that Sanderson finished it better than Jordan could have himself in a whole "forest for the trees" kind of way. It is why I think he could do the same for a living GRRM if Martin had a shred of humility and desire to get the finished narrative out there before he dies.
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I loved the first five or six books. When I wasn't doing stuff with for studying school work, I just go to a coffee shop in College Station, sit outside and just listen to classical music and read those books. They were wonderful.

I loved them. I just got so burnt up with the last one but I read. I would probably be happy finishing the series but I'm kind of apprehensive.

I mean I guess I remember the first three four or five books, but once he starts getting into the weeds, I'm lost. Does Sanderson actually do a good job of concluding the entire story?

I know there's the other thread but I haven't looked at it because I never finished the goddamn books? Was there two other books or three other books? What's it really awesome?

I loved that series when I was young, and I would like to finish it, but I'm tired of getting burned out by TV series or book series or whatever not ever getting finished....
 
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you wait 3 years for a book where not much happens
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This was the biggest issue for me. I enjoyed the story and the conclusion. I thought Sanderson did as good of a job as possible wrapping the story up. Some of those books between 6-11 just had absolutely no plot advancement. One book Rand and Nnayeve do a thing, which for spoilers' sake I won't say. The following book is every other channeler in the world being like "whoa that's a lot of power being channelled, wonder who's doing it and wtf they're up to."

Also, Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen is fantastic, my favorite series ever - I'll die on that hill boyos. But I can totally see why some people wouldn't like it, especially if they like everything explained in minute detail.
 
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I followed WoT for almost half my life.

However, I refuse to watch that abortion of a TV show and its woke/DEI bull shit on top of the significant changes to the series.

Fuck Amazon for ruining WoT.
 
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I followed WoT for almost half my life.

However, I refuse to watch that abortion of a TV show and its woke/DEI bull shit on top of the significant changes to the series.

Fuck Amazon for ruining WoT.
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Yeah, I think I was maybe two episodes in, and that's probably generous, until I noped out.

It truly was an abomination spawned by the Dark One himself...
 
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every so often i get on a kick to listen to lotr lore stuff, after a while youtube will start recommending got stuff and i will end up listening to old breakdowns again. back when people still had hope lol

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Dr.Retarded said:
I loved the first five or six books. When I wasn't doing stuff with for studying school work, I just go to a coffee shop in College Station, sit outside and just listen to classical music and read those books. They were wonderful.

I loved them. I just got so burnt up with the last one but I read. I would probably be happy finishing the series but I'm kind of apprehensive.

I mean I guess I remember the first three four or five books, but once he starts getting into the weeds, I'm lost. Does Sanderson actually do a good job of concluding the entire story?

I know there's the other thread but I haven't looked at it because I never finished the goddamn books? Was there two other books or three other books? What's it really awesome?

I loved that series when I was young, and I would like to finish it, but I'm tired of getting burned out by TV series or book series or whatever not ever getting finished....
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I stuck it out to the end. Yes, Sanderson did a good job tying all the loose ends up. However, the story had spun out into such a mess that that's literally the only thing he could do. The storytelling suffers a lot as a result. The later books by Jordan were obvious cash grabs and unfocused, which burned me badly enough that I got rid of the books a couple years ago when I was going through my library. I won't read them again.
 
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I stuck it out to the end. Yes, Sanderson did a good job tying all the loose ends up. However, the story had spun out into such a mess that that's literally the only thing he could do. The storytelling suffers a lot as a result. The later books by Jordan were obvious cash grabs and unfocused, which burned me badly enough that I got rid of the books a couple years ago when I was going through my library. I won't read them again.
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I remember elements of the first handful of books, but once you get past the fires of Heaven, I don't really remember much of anything other than a couple of plot threads. I know if I wanted to finish the series, I'd have to slog back through them all, and I don't think I have the fortitude to do that. They got really bad before he died.

I mean I loved them when I was younger, but then I just kind of went off the rails. Maybe one day, that are all just want you to postmortem of the entire series. Sure there's a bunch of floating around on YouTube.
 
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Skip all Perrin chapters through Winters Heart probably and you’ll like the books a lot more. They aren’t perfect but they are much better.
 
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Skip all Perrin chapters through Winters Heart probably and you’ll like the books a lot more. They aren’t perfect but they are much better.
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He and his wife are the F U C K I N G WORST.

The
FUCKING
Worst.

Worst.






Fuck them both.
 
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I just realized that this was the ASOIAF thread that I bumped with WoT shit.


Sorry guys, but the fat fuck isn't going to finish Winds of Winter, much less any of the other books he would have to write.

If you see this thread bumped it will not be for a new release in GRRM's lifetime.
 
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Can't wait for someone to build a LLM based off the fat fuck, to finish the book for him.
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LLMs lose the context and wander "off the reservation" very fast. No way one can write a 600-page book before 2040. I'm not going to care by then.
 
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LLMs lose the context and wander "off the reservation" very fast. No way one can write a 600-page book before 2040. I'm not going to care by then.
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Yeah most of the time when you ask them to refine their first draft they make it worse and the more you try to fix it, the more random nonsense they put in. They are impressive in their way, but also completely retarded.
 
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Hey guys! Let's re-create a super apex predator. One that is bigger, faster, stronger, and smarter than the ones that we tell people to be careful around in the wild. What could possibly go wrong?

Also, Jurassic Park was a forward thinking novel about the wonders of science, not a horror story about the hubris of man.
 
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