Ancient Civilizations
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Rajaah
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Honestly, this probably isn't that far off the mark. A huge amount of effort has gone into covering up the presence of giants in the ancient world, for whatever reason.
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whoa that's pretty awesome, hadn't heard about that. What is up with editing these days though?
9000-year-old ‘Stonehenge-like’ monument discovered in Lake Michigan
Located 40 feet beneath Lake Michigan’s surface, this remarkable find is poised to transform our understanding of the region's history.www.thebrighterside.news
Both animals?
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Chris
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That's insane, 6 months ago those videos were glitchy as fuck.
Only a matter of time before we have a successful AI made movie.
Ukerric
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Big problem with animated AI is the same one that plagues LLMs. The "brains" behind this have an extremely limited memory span, so they quickly start to drift off if you let them run too long. And each new restart starts with a slightly different "art style" than the others, so you get this.
That's probably the replacement for the animators in the near future: AI continuity supervisors.
Rajaah
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Not sure if you're being facetious or not, but yes, a lot of giant skeletons were found in the 1700's and 1800's. They pretty much all got collected by The Smithsonian very quickly, and legend has it that they were all dumped into the Atlantic Ocean. You can still find plenty of news articles about it from the late 1800's and early 1900's, before it totally disappeared from the news and public consciousness.
What does it all mean, and why does it matter to the powers that be if people think giants were around in the past? Hell if I know.
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Chris
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It means that people in the 1700-1900s had as many con artists as we have today and used the emerging fields of archeology and paleontology to grift.
If it was legit we would have continued to find giant skeletons and we haven't.
If there was a huge conspiracy someone would have talked by now.
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Burns
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They didn't disappear, a whole scientific discipline formed around them. It is called Paleontology. Spoiler: Any of them that weren't plaster fakes were dinosaur bones.
It's funny the knowledge people take for granted and think that humans have known about for 1000s of years. How humans dedicate their thinking capital is an interesting jaunt and has a lot to do with the particular zeitgeist of the time. There were always curious individuals, but in societies mostly concerned with growing enough food to live through the year, there just wasn't enough people free from that struggle to do such pursuits.
Paleontology as a discipline didn't take off until the late 1800s and early 1900s, when enough people were free to pursue it, develop ways to excavate it, and started finding more complete skeletons; instead of farmer John plowing a field and destroying most of the smaller bones, until hitting something huge and bringing it into town telling stories of giants.
In a similar vein, Plate Tectonics is something that seem logical to most of us, but it didn't take off until the 1950s, when better measuring tools were developed to take rough readings of land movements and others tools were starting to be used to slowly map the ocean floor.
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Will get around to it eventually.
In a similar vein, this was a great listen. Some interesting info/thoughts on how the central/South American pyramids have such tight seams between stones. Spoiler: acid
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Chukzombi
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Basically. There were giant men, but they were just tall dudes. The same tall dudes we have now. The giant race people are what ancient peoples perceived as giants. Such as the Vikings. People were so short in the old days due to starvation and malnourishment that many countries were full of shorties up until very recently. Me for example. I am easily the tallest member of my family on both sides. I'm only 6'1".
Chris
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An interesting thing I saw was that a lot of humanoid mythical creatures are just opposing stories from different ancesteor groups.
Our neanderthal ancestors could have been passing down stories about people with advanced technology/culture (elves) or with hunting dogs (werewolves), our regular human ancestors could have been passing down stories about people with a primitive technology/culture (orcs) or eating humans (vampires).
Could even just be different human cultures as you say.
Chukzombi
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Most of those stories could just be cautionary tales that parents or tribal elders told others as a form of control. Don't go in those woods over there. There are dogs who roam those woods. Dogs who are half man waiting to feast on young flesh and turn you into one of them. Fear is a powerful tool.
That being said, I think may be something to the bigfoot/yeti/Sasquatch/skunk ape/bunyip/yowie legends. Too many cultures around the world share the same tales.
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Rajaah
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A couple videos on the subject from our favorite Youtube guy:
Dinosaur bones is probably the most plausible explanation.
Would like to know if it's true that the Smithsonian dumped a lot of bones into the Atlantic though, and if so why.
Speaking of bones, I'm about 95% convinced that the Greek mythology of cyclops came from them finding Elephant skeletons (whose heads look like they have one big eye).
Medusa was probably based on southern Africans with dreadlocks. Weird thing is that it seems like Greek mythology indicated that "Atlantes" existed side-by side with "Amazones" to the west and "Gorgonnes" to the south. The former would indicate that South America and Africa were significantly closer together, while the latter backs up the idea that medusa was based on Africans (as Gorgon is another name for snake-haired people, and "Gorgonnes" was literally Africa south of Atlantes).
Also supposedly King Atlas had Medusa beheaded for being so ugly, which I imagine was also something passed down for millennia.
The Greeks were more in-touch with the hypothetical Atlantis era than anyone before or since in our 6000 years of recorded history, likely because they were so connected to Egyptian priests and historians who were the only ones who remembered it / documented it / passed it down at the time.
While I'm at it, the Egyptian Eye of Horus symbol really does resemble the Eye of the Sahara with a mountain north of it and a river flowing out of it to the south before curving eastward (which is what existed at the Eye of the Sahara once upon a time, probably pre-Sahara).
Just some spitballin while I have lunch