Ant Man. July 2015

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Xarpolis

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His strength changes based on his size. If you're 60 feet tall, you need the strength to move around normally at that size. As a result, he can pick up people as if they were toys. And cars are still heavy, but he can lift them as well.

It's all proportional.
 

Grimmlokk

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He's no Ray Palmer.
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Kreugen

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So he's not a regular sized guy who scales up and down, but actually a 60' guy who can shrink and somehow retains his cloud giant strength because...

Fuck it, comic book. Just call it super solider serum gone wrong, like everything else.
 

Xarpolis

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No no... he's a normal sized guy that porportionally scales up and down. If you're 6 foot tall, you weigh around 185 lbs and can lift 100 without too much trouble. Even as a weakling. Scale that up 10 times and he's now 60 feet and weighs substantially more than 1,850 lbs. I don't know the exact math on that, but it would increase his overall weight and his overall strength. Just like if he was reduced to the size of a grain of sand, he would now have the ability to pick up like... slight dust or something.

I'll see if there's something on google that could figure the math out for that, just because now I'm interested.
 

Palum

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Marvel has jumped the shark with flying on the back of ants. Some things from the comics are apparently best not explored in the film version...
 

Brad2770

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Marvel has jumped the shark with flying on the back of ants. Some things from the comics are apparently best not explored in the film version...
I think I have seen this before. Replace "flying on the back of ants" with "a talking raccoon".
 

TJT

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This is supposed to be a heist movie right? Also, the line about "does it have to be called Ant Man." Was good. At least the writers are onto how dumb the characters name is!
 

Chukzombi

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All right, I can agree with you that there was a different feel between Avengers and Man of Steel in terms of the destruction (more humor in Avengers), but I still submit that most of your complaint is just your perception of it. Because I didn't realize that it is specifically buildings collapsing which stresses you out, not just the inevitable collapse later from all the structural damage, or the chunks raining down on innocent people, or explosions, or whatever. If it is strictly them falling down, then ok, there is nothing I can offer you because Man of Steel definitely has more of that.

But to be fair, you should go watch Man of Steel again (you can skip the first 20 minutes, I'm not an asshole) and report back all of the "realistic imagery of humans dying" so we have both sides of your complaint to compare. Or just say that it is specifically buildings falling down that bothers you. I can't argue with that one.

And so we're clear, I've said many times before that if they had just spent 15 seconds showing Superman attempting to flee Metropolis, only to have Zod say nope and smash some buildings until he came back, it would have been a thousand times better in that regard. They didn't have him do it though, and that is pretty much the thing that everyone hinges their complaints on, so I'll admit they fucked up. And Avengers was a vastly better movie in almost all regards. I just think you're choosing to view the two movies through different prisms, or one particular phobia. Which I've already said is your right, I just have the right to disagree as well. Which we do all the time, so no big deal, just something to argue about while TV is slow. I still love you man.
watching MoS, its on cinemax and cinemax is free this weekend. the world engine is as bad if not worse than i remember. people are dying by the fuckload. their deaths are shown on screen. and yeah it still pisses me off that they pulled that shit in a superman film.
 

VariaVespasa_sl

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No no... he's a normal sized guy that porportionally scales up and down. If you're 6 foot tall, you weigh around 185 lbs and can lift 100 without too much trouble. Even as a weakling. Scale that up 10 times and he's now 60 feet and weighs substantially more than 1,850 lbs. I don't know the exact math on that, but it would increase his overall weight and his overall strength. Just like if he was reduced to the size of a grain of sand, he would now have the ability to pick up like... slight dust or something.

I'll see if there's something on google that could figure the math out for that, just because now I'm interested.
Assuming you maintain the same proportions in all ways, inside and out, then its a simple cube function of the amount of change. 10 times the height means 10 times the width and 10 times the thickness, so its 10 x 10 x 10 times the amount of flesh and bone which comes out to 1000 times the weight. So if youre 185 pounds at 6', youre 185,000 pounds at 60', or a bit over 90 tons.
 

Void

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watching MoS, its on cinemax and cinemax is free this weekend. the world engine is as bad if not worse than i remember. people are dying by the fuckload. their deaths are shown on screen. and yeah it still pisses me off that they pulled that shit in a superman film.
We're going to keep disagreeing on this, so I'll just briefly say that a) I did admit that the world engine was sorta bullshit, and b) no, the deaths from the world engine (or the fight with Zod) are NOT shown on screen...according to my definition of "shown on screen" at least. Perhaps yours is different. All I see are people obviously ABOUT to die, but they disappear in a debris cloud before you actually see it, or are flung up into the air and then slammed back down towards the ground, but we never actually see them hit, and they are usually so far away they look like ants. The only deaths actually shown that I can recall are Zod and one of the A-10 pilots who apparently just disintegrates when the big Kryptonian jumps onto the nose and rips the cockpit open.

However, if people about to die is how you define "realistic imagery of humans dying" as per your original statement, then I guess you're right. That's not how I define it, but I can see where others might, so you win. And, I can agree that it is further along the spectrum of "graphic deaths" than Avengers. It doesn't bother me one bit that it is in a Superman film though, because that's what would really happen if beings of that power fought in the middle of a city like that. You can't have the awesomeness of Faora's fights against the soldiers without extrapolating that out to Superman vs. Zod. The only thing that bothered me, as I mentioned before, was the lack of that 15 seconds to show Superman tried to move the battle away.
 

Homsar

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suit looks pretty good but how much of it is CGI? Deadpool suit looks amazing before added effects
 

Grimmlokk

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No idea. Marvel seems to go mostly practical with their suits before adding the CGI though. Like if you look at set photos of any of them, even Iron Man. Not to mention their CGI is top notch so it's not distracting and unnatural looking like Green Lantern was.
 

Homsar

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Its been a while since I watched Thor one but I remember thinking his armor looked better in the first movie then it did in avengers