Arkk's Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread

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TecKnoe

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you know ive honestly thought about grabbing some roids just to get it over with quicker, because i go into the gym now and bust my ass so i just feel like if i was on roids id see the results i want in 6 months instead of a year or more, my goal is to go from 130 to 160 basically what he did so im interested in his journey because im basically his size.
 

Gravel

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I literally just addressed that in the Weight Loss thread yesterday.

TESTOSTERONE NATION | Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning - Page 1

Excerpt:

YOU SHOULD NOT CYCLE IF:

1. You are under the age of 25
The reason is that your natural test is still very high and you are able to make very good gains without gear. There is also a very good likelyhood that you are going to end up messing up your endocrine system because you are still in a period where it is fluctuating. If you are not making good gains you need to look at your training and nutrition. I personally waited until I was 27 to start taking gear even though I was ready to rock when I was 20 so I know how you feel but you need to trust that with proper diet and training you can make gains naturally. The rare exception is individuals with a lot of training experience in their teens who have already acheived a very high level of physical development (230lbs+) and is already at or near their genetic limit. If you are one of the rare individuals who has already reach a very high level of development through consistent training the absolute earliest you should consider gear is 20.

2. You are over 25 but have been training less than 5 years
If you have not been working your ass off in the gym for at least 5 years naturally with good nutrition you have a lot of natural potential left. It is best to exhaust as much of your natural potential possible before resorting to gear. Gear should be the final piece of the puzzle to your ideal physique. By gearing up too soon you may be short changing yourself.

3. Your diet and training is crap
Gear is not a magical pill. It makes hard work more rewarding, it doesn't give results for doing nothing. All you will get is some temporary water retention which will be gone when your cycle ends. Diet and training on gear is everything. Period. You should have a very good idea of what you are going to eat (including macronutrient breakdown) and what your training plan is going to be. If you aren't already eating properly you can make some very good gains by doing so first naturally. If you aren't already training properly you can make some very good gains naturally...make use of that then think about gear. This site has a wealth of info on both topics. If your training and diet is off you will just waste your money doing a cycle.

4. You are a fat guy looking to get "cut", "ripped", or "shredded"
If you are a big fatso and think gear is going to make you slim and jacked it isn't going to happen. Fatloss comes from proper diet and training. If you can't cut down without the gear you will have just as much trouble on the gear. If you are looking for something to aid fatloss try a fatburner and then add on muscle once you have cut down.

It will look a lot more impressive and be a lot more successful....again this site has a wealth of info on losing fat...I highly recommend checking out the Velocity Diet that Gus is doing in the Physique Clinic...it shows what proper training and dieting can do. The anabolic diet is great for guys, I suggest checking it out as well because if you are fat you are likely fairly insulin resistant so cutting carbs will likely provide very damatic results. You get to eat a lot and because of what you are eating your natural testosterone will be high.

Cutting cycles are run by vets that already know what they are doing, have diet and nutrition down, and are just looking for the last little tweak to their already lean physique. Once you have achevied that status you can look at cutting cycles.

5. You are emotionally unstable
Gear can mess with your emotions. If you are an unhappy/depressed person that thinks being geared up is going to make your life better chances are you are going to feel good for a little while when on and then when you come off you are going to be lower than when you started and likely downright suicidal.

If you are a livewire that goes off in a rage when you drink, do drugs, or when someone pushes your buttons guess what? Gear is going to make this worse. If you have trouble controlling your anger then gear will make it more difficult. You will likely end up acting like a bit of a maniac and alienate your friends.

If you have answered yes to any of the above 5 questions you are not ready for gear.
tl;dr, steroids aren't an EZ pass to getting huge. You've got to put in the work. And considering where you're at, you're just going to be flushing money down the toilet. Also, don't you have Crohn's? I'd be a bit hesitant about how not only the steroids, but the other things you have to inject to keep yourself getting fucked up, will fuck you up.

But like I said in the Weight Loss thread, T-Nation has a boat load of people on cycles. They're very open about it and there's a lot of good information. Read and then read some more.
 
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The general guideline is to not use any drugs until you've reached your natural peak. Rarely anyone does this, but it's the best way to do things. People who rush into steroids are the ones who wind up on forums crying about lumps under their nipples and "WHY AM I LOSING HAIR" and "What is PCT?"

I don't even like talking about this shit here.
 

TecKnoe

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despite the crohn's i have a horrible temper so yeah ill stear clear of that shit if im going to turn into a rampaging murderer, thanks for the read and sorry i dont usually check that thread, i need to gain the weight.

lumps under my nippies yikes sounds weird.
 

Gravel

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The general guideline is to not use any drugs until you've reached your natural peak. Rarely anyone does this, but it's the best way to do things. People who rush into steroids are the ones who wind up on forums crying about lumps under their nipples and "WHY AM I LOSING HAIR" and "What is PCT?"

I don't even like talking about this shit here.
I was actually getting ready to edit my post, but there are 2 responses now.

Shit's illegal, so probably shouldn't really be discussed on RR. I know Draegan already has issues with ads and the porn in FSR.
 

Zacx_sl

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Those who are thinking about roids should consider a Driven Sports Activate Xtreme cycle with Triazole, it's quite effective

google this (without quotes)
"activate xtreme triazole stack"

and have a read through the results
 

Eomer

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yeah and it also makes your hair fall off and lose your libido


aka, bullshit
I don't really give a fuck, I googled exactly as you told me to, and the first several results were talking about sore nipples. I thought it was kind of funny.
 

Zacx_sl

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I haven't done any roids simply because I can't get a hold of them. I've tried, but it's very hard in New Zealand.


I've done an activate xtreme + triazole cycle tho, and got good results. Just ordered some more and will start another cycle very soon.
 

Gravel

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I think a lot of people homebrew. But once again, I feel like this is probably a topic that we want to keep off these forums. There are plenty of other shitholes on the internet where you can discuss them.
 

EliTVGA_sl

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ok list of supps now that i have a bit of time!
L-arginine 1000mg
apex multivitamin
zinc 50mg
dhea 100mg
muscle pharm creatine 5g
muscle pharm amino 1 15 grams......BCAAs... and this stuff is hands down the best tasting stuff i have ever had. cherry limeaid
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apex L-Glutamine 5 g
ON Serious Mass Weight gainer shake 1-2 a day.
ON Gold Standard Whey 2-3 a day.
1 gallon-1 1/2 gallon of water a day.
Food lots of food.
 

Szeth

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Having witnessed steroid use... yes the gains are good. The thing people don't realize is that life isn't always the same old shit... When you need to take 6 months out of the gym, and you lose half your mass, being small isn't your first problem - depression is.

It's more of a decision than "will my nipples get puffy, will it be worth the money"... shit is serious.
 

Springbok

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If you cycle right, those issues rarely - if ever - occur. Finding out how to buy test online literally takes less than an hour of research to find reputable, affordable gear.

Thinking about building/putting together a home gym, as I just can't be bothered with how busy my gym has gotten the past 2 months. Not sure whats up, but everytime (early morning/late evening/lunch) I go during the week - its at max (or over imo) capacity. It fucking sucks. Looking at quality equipment though is expensive as hell. Thinking of just buying squat rack/bench and a ton of weights initially....
 

Neki

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I'm watching Wimbledon at the moment; do you think this dude uses roids or can it be natural?

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McCheese

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Thinking about building/putting together a home gym, as I just can't be bothered with how busy my gym has gotten the past 2 months. Not sure whats up, but everytime (early morning/late evening/lunch) I go during the week - its at max (or over imo) capacity. It fucking sucks. Looking at quality equipment though is expensive as hell. Thinking of just buying squat rack/bench and a ton of weights initially....
Squat rack + bench and a bunch of weights are all you really need. I'd kill to have the space even for just a bench and some dumbbells/barbell. Someday!

I've seen several people on various fitness/body building forums build their own power racks, benches, etc. You might take that route if you're handy and have the time.