True, but how many of the more casual/social guilds raided the original Naxx?
Okay, let me rephrase my original point: WoW had both raid content for the more social/casual crowd in MC, a mix inbetween for them to progress in BWL, and high end raid content in Naxx 40.
I understand your view point on cross server instancing (LFD, LFR, etc.) But you think instancing by itself on a single server is bad? Can you explain that?
Yes, making things simple and dumbed down to require no effort of being a community is never good. In the end people don’t try to be social or hardly amiable, they queue, pew pew, and bounce. There is no sense of being part of anything other than a machine that allows everything to be done easily.
You're welcome to have your own opinion, but what you're describing is the LFD/LFR system that WoW Retail and several other lobby based games have. Instancing by itself actually creates and promotes far more community and encourages more players to socialize than a game without it. Its just when people think back to the games that didnt have instancing, they only remember the good times they had.
I grew up in EQ1, I slept at my PC for Lodizal and Stormfeather. I remember the hood and bad but shit being hard and needing to make real friends on your local server was the point.
All you have to do is remind yourself how many concurrent online users each EQ server had, how many active accounts each server had and then.. boil that down into how many raid targets each era had, how many end-game dungeon camps each era had, the time commitment that varies wildly between the two and the amount of people both activities could hold at any one time.
This reminds me of when we were kids we’d go outside and play actual physical sports. However now we play those sports on a console or PC. Same thing in a sense but at the same time something is lost.
You want a more "social" game, but also admit to boxing a full group in one, so you don't have to rely on others. Not only that, you wear it like a badge of honor.
