Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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TrollfaceDeux said:
They are going for that faggy lesbian look....
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i think the comic version looks fine with the pixie cut. it fits with her character, i think.

i just think clint called dibs on the haircut first so brie was probably like NO I'M THE FIRST ME and so they had to change it just enough to placate her
 
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j00t said:
yeah... i'm just assuming there was some deleted scene with rhodey getting a new suit right when the battle starts. his old suit was probably damaged when thanos bombarded avengers compound. they probably just scrapped it because it didn't really need to be there since he's hardly even shown in the battle. it's just weird that they didn't re-cgi his old suit back on him because it's front and center with no explanation.
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they actually showed him leaving his broken suit right after the building came down, he said "pop canopy pop canopy" and then crawled over to Rocket and used a bar to get him out. The last time we see him, Rhodie and Rocket have like 3 inches of air left and Antman is on the way. Then like 5 full minutes pass and Giant Man comes out with new suit War Machine. I agree there must be a cut scene.
 
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Seananigans said:
You mean like the distress signal from the Asgardian ship that the Guardians were responding to, that resulted in Thor being brought on board?

Good call they should have differentiated the two.
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minor Infinity War trivia, the distress call the Asguardian ship was sending out (that GOTG was responding to) and which starts Infinity War was voiced by Kenneth Branagh who directed Thor 1.

Its also believed Stan Lee's cameo in End Game is his very last one.
 
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I found Cap Marvel running into Ironmans ship at the start kind of lazy. They did the same in Infinity War with The Guardians running into Thor in the vastness of space. To do the same for 2 movies in a row is just lazy writing. Could have easily had them sending out a distress signal of some kind or anything at all to make it more than just the exact same coincidence two movies in a row.
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As stated, Thor's ship literally was sending a distress signal asking for help from anybody close enough to hear. I am going to assume that the technology that exists for sending those signals matches the technology of the ships. The signal can probably be picked up from 1000's of light years away. Since this technology is also on the ship that Stark is on, and Captain Marvel was sent to find this ship, I am presuming she would have carried a receiver with her while tracking either for the signal or the radiation left from the engine drives. If I was going to nitpick something involving Stark, it would be his ability to solve time travel in what appeared to be 24-48 hours? Given the complexity of that science and the consideration that all these advanced societies had never done it, that would be my Nitpick. I just shrugged and assumed that Stark was one of the most intelligent beings in the universe.

On another note considering Stark, I loved the special effects they used with his body post rescue. I thought that was how the actor was looking nowadays, until it dawned on me that he would look that rough having been on the edge of starvation and dehydration. Its impressive that they chose to use a budget for what amounts to be a few minutes of the movie for accuracy sake. It was a nice small touch.
 
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OOOooooOOoo We're doing nitpicks now! OK!

As just mentioned, Captain Marvel randomly happening across the ship in space?

Where did Valkyrie get a Pegasus from? Weren't they all in the now destroyed Asgard? Did I see multiple Pegasus' (and ergo Valkyries) when the portals were opening?

What the hell is Dr Strange going to do with his biggest power (Eye of Agamato) missing it's battery (the time stone)

They still let Loki get away in NY, which kinda screw with a lot of things including Thor Ragnarok.

How did Steve Rogers , in 1970, rebuilt the tesseract around the stone? (they remove it to put it in the gauntlets, and he didn't have a rebuilt one in the case when he went back).
 
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Warrik said:
Loved the movie. If I could nitpick

  1. Absolutely ham fisted female hero scene
  2. This one bugged me: I thought non immortals couldn't touch/hold an infinity stone? Hulk, Hawkeye, ect. should have blown up, no?
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Actually if you remember from GOTG onward the only stone that caused any physical harm to normal folk was the power stone, which conveniently is still inside its container in this movie until placed in the gauntlet. Maybe. I actually can't remember if anyone physically handles any other stones or if they're all in containers. Maybe in Thor 2? Only saw it once and don't remember much about it.
 
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j00t said:
i think the comic version looks fine with the pixie cut. it fits with her character, i think.

i just think clint called dibs on the haircut first so brie was probably like NO I'M THE FIRST ME and so they had to change it just enough to placate her
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The thing that cracks me up, is that any scenario we can dream up of Brie being an absolute cunt is 100% believable. I can absolutely see her saying and doing exactly what you wrote. She could be the most insufferable person in hollywood right now! Although I saw something about Natalie Portman complaining that FEMALE chickens and cows are being exploited for their eggs and milk - LOL.
 
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After seeing it a second time, I would have really the final battle to have been 20+ mins longer. I would have loved to have seen more team ups, combos, etc. Would have been nice to have seen more people take shots at Thanos or Black Order. The missed a good opportunity for Strange vs. Maw, Hulk vs. Black Dwarf, . Glaive and Proxima could have been the girl power team up possibly.

I do agree the girl power moments was a little forced but I still think it can be somewhat dismissed because it was more of "we got your back" kinda of moment.

I'm not a big fan of doing that kind of stuff if it isn't organic. Just like Russo sliding in the homosexual situation which could have been totally honest and sincere I guess but when they start bring up how this movie what going to have all these "inclusive" moments, I find stuff like that more insulting that promoting representation. I'm all for inclusion but if you ever want to really erase the problems, you have start treating people equally in every day situations instead of carving out moments just because of inclusion. As others have said, there's plenty of BA women who have plenty of incredible moments in the MCU, not to mention African Americans and I have never felt like they have been under represented so just maintain fairness and let things flow naturally and everything should be cool.

Still loved the movie. Second time Professor Hulk and Fat Thor felt a little overdone but it really didn't take away from the movie for me. I just could watch "On your left" to the end, 100 times.
 
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Muligan said:
After seeing it a second time, I would have really the final battle to have been 20+ mins longer. I would have loved to have seen more team ups, combos, etc. Would have been nice to have seen more people take shots at Thanos or Black Order. The missed a good opportunity for Strange vs. Maw, Hulk vs. Black Dwarf, . Glaive and Proxima could have been the girl power team up possibly.
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For sure. There were tons of missed opportunities for fighting. In neither Infinity Wars or Endgame do we see Hulk really fight anything. The last big fight he had was Ragnarok. Thor did almost nothing in Endgame. It really was all about Iron Man and Captain America, which I guess is fine, but it would have been great to see the other core Avengers kicking ass as well.
 
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Mahes said:
The signal can probably be picked up from 1000's of light years away.
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Only after 1000's of years. That's what light-years mean. After 23 days the signal has only gone 23 light-days. (As long as we're pretending that practical reality matters in a comic book movie.)
 
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Haus said:
How did Steve Rogers , in 1970, rebuilt the tesseract around the stone? (they remove it to put it in the gauntlets, and he didn't have a rebuilt one in the case when he went back).
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Yeah but they specifically said time travel doesn't change anything, which is how they can sidestep all the massive plotholes they created by taking the space stone out of the tesseract, condensing the aether into the reality stone, and bringing Thanos & crew out of 2014. Really the Endgame version of time travel is the dumbest version of time travel out of any movie I've ever seen.
 
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Chris said:
About Cap going back in time...

I was thinking that he went back to 1970 Peggy and not 1945 Peggy. 1970 Peggy maintains the Agent Carter TV continuity and he was going to her location in 1970 anyway?
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I think the problem you and a few other people are having is in thinking that you have to do something significant to cause a new timeline to branch off. You don't. They're essentially referencing the Many Worlds Theory in which all possible outcomes of a wave function exist as their own separate universe. There are an infinite number of universes that are branching off all the time. By stepping foot in a past, you're causing a new branch. This is why they keep referring to Quantum Physics. So even if he did return to 1970 Peggy in the Agent Carter continuity, just being there has created a unique timeline branch.
And timelines are also constantly branching off in the present. It's a perpetual process. I think this is where people are getting confused


Byr said:
I found Cap Marvel running into Ironmans ship at the start kind of lazy. They did the same in Infinity War with The Guardians running into Thor in the vastness of space. To do the same for 2 movies in a row is just lazy writing. Could have easily had them sending out a distress signal of some kind or anything at all to make it more than just the exact same coincidence two movies in a row.
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In Infinity War, they were specifically there investigating a distress signal and ran into the wreckage which Thor was floating in

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except they didn't. i'd 100% agree with you except
cap's ending completely invalidates any multiple timeline shenanigans. on an intellectual level, everything banner and stark state about time travel is actually the exact opposite of what the ancient one implies. she basically implies that as long as you don't create NEW timelines, you CAN go back into your own past. the trick is actually NOT creating new timelines (or making sure to close them off). THIS IS WHY TIME TRAVEL IS TERRIBLE AS A PLOT AAAGGGHHHH
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I agree that Cap showing up at the end breaks the laws they established. Unless he had some other way of travelling back to their timeline before meeting them as an old man.
I'll have to watch again, but the Ancient One's explanation is still consistent. She wasn't speaking about going back into your own past. She needed her stone. Without it, her current timeline would branch off into a timeline where she didn't have a stone to protect it. It's an unknown. She said it could save Banner's timeline but could well ruin hers. Returning the stone to when he borrowed it means that her timeline is never without the stone. It had nothing to do with maintaining Banner's past. That chain was broken the moment he set foot in it

Gavinmad said:
Yeah but they specifically said time travel doesn't change anything, which is how they can sidestep all the massive plotholes they created by taking the space stone out of the tesseract, condensing the aether into the reality stone, and bringing Thanos & crew out of 2014. Really the Endgame version of time travel is the dumbest version of time travel out of any movie I've ever seen.
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I know being a curmudgeon is sorta your thing, but what was so dumb about it?
 
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I don't get why everyone is saying the sound at the end is stark hammering the first armor. Totally different sounds and if I counted right there were seven tolls of the bell.
 
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Captain Suave said:
Only after 1000's of years. That's what light-years mean. After 23 days the signal has only gone 23 light-days. (As long as we're pretending that practical reality matters in a comic book movie.)
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They are going faster than Light speed. That is a speed that only inhibits our reality. I am going to just say that their transmissions use a quantum phase signal that rides a tachyon beam while creating an infinite output of every direction in possible space.

So...yeah.
 
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