Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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couple people have wondered how good the movie would have been if they had no context of the rest of the MCU...

 
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So where can I cash in my internet bucks? Was 99% correct aside from the quirky remark.

Also seeing diversity hire Valkyrie be made queen of Asgard rustled every last jimmy I had.

Why? She is the only living asgardian character we know. And Thor is leaving to have awesome times with the AGOG. It was a perfectly fine hand off to allow her a story if they want to use the character in future earth based stories. As far as Thor is concerned he is gong to be in cosmic shit only from now on. And my guess is he dies in the next guardians as a way of making warlock look badass.

This is the shit that makes fair criticism of the SJW shit get drowned out by incel comments. Of all the SJW shit in the series this is legit the only thing that IsNt that and actually makes sense.

Did anyone care about the casting when she was in raganarok? No? Oh but now that she is in charge as the only asgardian hero left, it’s much diversities?

Fuck off queer fag
 
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Why? She is the only living asgardian character we know. And Thor is leaving to have awesome times with the AGOG. It was a perfectly fine hand off to allow her a story if they want to use the character in future earth based stories. As far as Thor is concerned he is gong to be in cosmic shit only from now on. And my guess is he dies in the next guardians as a way of making warlock look badass.

This is the shit that makes fair criticism of the SJW shit get drowned out by incel comments. Of all the SJW shit in the series this is legit the only thing that IsNt that and actually makes sense.

Did anyone care about the casting when she was in raganarok? No? Oh but now that she is in charge as the only asgardian hero left, it’s much diversities?

Fuck off queer fag
Now just hold on one second.

Hiring an African chick to play a Nordic goddess isnt some kind of grey area where you have to have your SJW detectors finely tuned to detect it. Its full on, over the line, so ridiculous it can't be parodied, SJWism. Its hiring a legless person to play the flash, a skinny gay communist to play superman, a fat black trans-woman to play wonder woman. Its over the top, goddam ridiculous, in your face full throated intersectional bullshit SJWism.

Theres being oversensitive to SJWism and then theres appropriate reactions to fucking ridiculous, jarring, suspension of disbelief breaking casting decisions that were made for NO other reason than SJW ideology.
 
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couple people have wondered how good the movie would have been if they had no context of the rest of the MCU...


I call Bullshit on that, there is no way a human is able to completely escape the MCU unless they live a hermit life.
The amount of marvel shit that spilled into other real life areas is insane and he should know more about the character by mere osmosis of culture around him.
He never saw a trailer or a commercial or heard anyone talk about it especially since his brother is a total nerd? Yea BS.
 
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I call Bullshit on that, there is no way a human is able to completely escape the MCU unless they live a hermit life.
The amount of marvel shit that spilled into other real life areas is insane and he should know more about the character by mere osmosis of culture around him.
He never saw a trailer or a commercial or heard anyone talk about it especially since his brother is a total nerd? Yea BS.

he DID hear people talk about it. he said so in the video, he just didn't care at all about the conversation and tuned out. honestly it's not that unbelievable. one of my best friends hadn't paid any attention to the MCU until i dragged her to civil war with me. she had no desire to see it, but i was going through a divorce and she felt bad about me going alone. the ONLY reason she's seen any of them is because of me, i'm the only nerd in her circle. there's an entire world out there of people who don't actually care about super heroes.
 

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he DID hear people talk about it. he said so in the video, he just didn't care at all about the conversation and tuned out. honestly it's not that unbelievable. one of my best friends hadn't paid any attention to the MCU until i dragged her to civil war with me. she had no desire to see it, but i was going through a divorce and she felt bad about me going alone. the ONLY reason she's seen any of them is because of me, i'm the only nerd in her circle. there's an entire world out there of people who don't actually care about super heroes.
So you use the sympathy card to drag a normie female into a dark theater with you? Nice move.
So did she enjoy the move?
Follow up question, did you get to show her your action figure afterward?
 
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So you use the sympathy card to drag a normie female into a dark theater with you? Nice move.
So did she enjoy the move?
Follow up question, did you get to show her your action figure afterward?

action figureS. plural.

kidding aside, she was mostly confused why good guys were fighting each other. but she enjoyed it enough that we've seen all the rest of the MCU together, well except endgame because i moved across the country.
 
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End Game hits #2 worldwide spot after 12 days, its a big question whether it can do another $800m worldwide though

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Hiring an African chick to play a Nordic goddess isnt some kind of grey area where you have to have your SJW detectors finely tuned to detect it. Its full on, over the line, so ridiculous it can't be parodied, SJWism.

Valkyrie isn't a goddess, she is literally... a valkyrie. A group of maidens serving under Odin who would escort those who died in battle and worthy to Valhalla. Just like every other Asguardian she lives longer than humans but isn't immortal. You can be a retard and say "hur durr there should only be white characters in the Thor MCU because thats what reality was", ignoring the fact that you know, the Norse didn't actually meet any of their gods, they didn't really live on a different planet and were a race of super beings who all spoke modern English, yadda yadda.

Beyond that you are ignoring the fact that the Norse did trade and encounter Africans regularly, in fact there is a single word in ancient Norse for a dark color, "blar", which translates into either blue-black, black or blue. Guess what color the frost giants are described in all the Norse texts? Its also been genetically proven that ancient Vikings had a shit load of mongol and Sami DNA in them, and a few of their Mongol hybrid leaders had very dark skin and asiatic features including the Varangian Guard who were elite Viking troops serving the Byzantium Empire which had connections all over the world.

Yes, Captain Marvel is a monstrosity because of her intro, her powers, the way she dips in and out randomly, that stupid "WOMYN ASSEMBLE" moment, her Dyke haircut, etc. Saying the same thing about Valkyrie just means you are kind of a retard, she's a well developed character since Thor 3 who has a solid backstory, has a power level we can understand, and is pretty consistent with her motivations and actions.
 
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Now just hold on one second.

Hiring an African chick to play a Nordic goddess isnt some kind of grey area where you have to have your SJW detectors finely tuned to detect it. Its full on, over the line, so ridiculous it can't be parodied, SJWism. Its hiring a legless person to play the flash, a skinny gay communist to play superman, a fat black trans-woman to play wonder woman. Its over the top, goddam ridiculous, in your face full throated intersectional bullshit SJWism.

Theres being oversensitive to SJWism and then theres appropriate reactions to fucking ridiculous, jarring, suspension of disbelief breaking casting decisions that were made for NO other reason than SJW ideology.

Umm, I hate to be that guy but... Heimdall? We like him right?
 
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Umm, I hate to be that guy but... Heimdall? We like him right?

I think the casting and portrayal of him was fine. I'm sure a few of our resident derps will claim his casting is part of the big SJW conspiracy though.
 
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You can be a retard and say "hur durr there should only be white characters in the Thor MCU because thats what reality was", ignoring the fact that you know, the Norse didn't actually meet any of their gods, they didn't really live on a different planet and were a race of super beings who all spoke modern English, yadda yadda.

Does this logic work for black panther? There is no real Wakanda, it doesn't exist. Why can't Wakanda have white people? Why isn't Wakanda a multicultural society? Oh, I know, I know...because Wakanda is actually about race, right? But the warrior race a group of white people developed in the Germanic northland was multicultural. Okay.

Beyond that you are ignoring the fact that the Norse did trade and encounter Africans regularly, in fact there is a single word in ancient Norse for a dark color, "blar", which translates into either blue-black, black or blue. Guess what color the frost giants are described in all the Norse texts? Its also been genetically proven that ancient Vikings had a shit load of mongol and Sami DNA in them, and a few of their Mongol hybrid leaders had very dark skin and asiatic features including the Varangian Guard who were elite Viking troops serving the Byzantium Empire which had connections all over the world.

So because they named their devils as dark/black it somehow makes the gods/beings which are the object of their praise also black? That doesn't really hold true for any other religion, which often transpose foreign or "othering" colors onto negative aspects. Also Sami, the Western plains people were white. Eastern plains people, Mongolians, did have more east asian features, but they are also light skin (At their darkest they are "brown", but certainly not "dark"). But I digress. I fail to see how your evidence that the Vikings were employed in Byzatine 1200 years AFTER the Germanic religions begin to develop their specific myths has any bearing on myths that existed for more than a millennia before those migrations.

This is pretty weak shit to cover up something SJWs would be absolutely apoplectic over if it happened in reverse. Oh wait, we actually have examples of it happening in reverse, don't we? Hmm, how did the criticism go for Gods of Egypt when another cultures mystical beings were represented as white people?

'Gods of Egypt' director apologizes for 'whitewashed' cast


Oh...

Hell, I like Valkyrie. And it annoys the fuck out of me I have to point this shit out because I think adopting and changing other cultures to tell stories to your own culture is one of the best ways to expand story telling. If I saw Africans retelling various Western stories with black people, and black motiffs--I'd be flattered. Because it shows the story is good enough to connect on a human level. Skin color shouldn't matter, at all. But this is the world we live in, where people apologize for this shit all the time now. Its absolutely hypocritical to turn around and say people being annoyed at this shit only working in one direction is wrong.

That's the irony here. Before the SJW title wave, I'm sure none of us would give a shit about any of these characters. Stringer Bell as Heimdall? Fuck yes son. But NOW that the SJWs have essentially divided people into teams, to be the only one not advocating for your side is a form of nihilism that will perpetuate more and more being taken with nothing being given. And you shouldn't expect anyone to simply allow that. Either everyone is playing by the same rules, or no one should. And nothing will get rid of these rules faster than watching how quickly everyone loses if westerners decide to stop fucking around and start holding others to the same standards. Because there is a reason our culture makes fucking BILLIONS around the world, there is a reason everyone wants to "diversify" our culture while protecting their own, because our culture is fucking amazing. We should be proud of it.
 
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I think the casting and portrayal of him was fine. I'm sure a few of our resident derps will claim his casting is part of the big SJW conspiracy though.

The fucking places you choose to stick your head in are hilarious.

That said, Idra Elbis is such a fucking debonair badass that he was great as Heimdall and would be a great James Bond also. Admittedly, I look for attitude and personality as key to choosing actors for certain roles.
 

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I think the casting and portrayal of him was fine. I'm sure a few of our resident derps will claim his casting is part of the big SJW conspiracy though.

It's not part of an SJW conspiracy, he's a great actor. What's bullshit is when people feel holding SJWs to their own book of rules is somehow wrong. Either everyone should be comfortable with whatever race playing whatever, or no one should be. Pretty simple.
 
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Beyond that you are ignoring the fact that the Norse did trade and encounter Africans regularly, in fact there is a single word in ancient Norse for a dark color, "blar", which translates into either blue-black, black or blue. Guess what color the frost giants are described in all the Norse texts? Its also been genetically proven that ancient Vikings had a shit load of mongol and Sami DNA in them, and a few of their Mongol hybrid leaders had very dark skin and asiatic features including the Varangian Guard who were elite Viking troops serving the Byzantium Empire which had connections all over the world.

this is so tryhard it's hilarious
 
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this is so tryhard it's hilarious
I dont even know what he is arguing, did anyone here or anywhere else say that vikings never heard of Africans? There is no doubt Norse traded, fought and drank with black people from africa but why in hell would they include them in their own version of heaven and deity myths.
 
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I dont even know what he is arguing, did anyone here or anywhere else say that vikings never heard of Africans? There is no doubt Norse traded, fought and drank with black people from africa but why in hell would they include them in their own version of heaven and deity myths.

To be more inclusive and shed themselves of their white privileged, obviously.
 
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