Baldur's Gate 3 by Larian Games

Phazael

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Thunderwave and Gust of Wave and Gust of Wind are both available on scrolls in the starting areas as well as being learnable spells to several classes. Fire bombs are all over the place to find. Its possible you can hit that fight unprepared (and even then a strong group on normal diff can beat it with luck) but you practically have to beeline for it and ignore everything else out in the starting area for that to happen. Similar to just walking straight to the Hag's hut and picking a fight with her right out of the gate, you have to be completely reckless to get into that situation. And the spider fight has some pretty obvious clues on how they want you do do that fight and the only real monkey wrench are the Phase spiders, if they land poison or double gank a squishy character. Someone with limited game mechanic knowledge and zero idea whats coming is going to get taken behind the woodshed, but thats who the easier difficulties are for.
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That's the thing. At lvl 3 you don't have a lot of this shit unless you planned for it and knew what was coming in advance
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I seem to recall trying the Hag early, without see invis, and having to reload a bunch of times (in order to save the hostage).
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Hag is one reason why I always do the event where I let Volo fuck up the eye surgery and give you the replacement eye with perma see invis

Also even if you don't push cheese the hag fight, you can make it much easier by throwing a bottle of water on the hag. When she does the duplication/disguise stuff, the real hag still has the water debuff on her.
 
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PS- The first time I fought it I used fire spells and cantrips on the web bridges to make it splat and was able to tackle it at L3 with I think one or two reloads. Seemed pretty obvious to me that falling damage was the intended method of dusting it. I remember using Thunder Wave on the little guys and maybe a burning hands scroll at one point. It was rough, but doable. The three shot special arrow nuclear archers led by a L8 Flind (with two guys who negate bonus actions) on the other hand had me pissed off for quite a while. That one can be done with a speech test if you can get in close enough, though.
 
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Cybsled said:
Hag is one reason why I always do the event where I let Volo fuck up the eye surgery and give you the replacement eye with perma see invis

Also even if you don't push cheese the hag fight, you can make it much easier by throwing a bottle of water on the hag. When she does the duplication/disguise stuff, the real hag still has the water debuff on her.
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If I remember right, Hunters Mark and a couple other random debuffs work similarly. Kind of amazing how well thought out that fight was and all the different outcomes. I mostly spam Magic Missile cheese to pop the duplicates, but I remember reloading that shit a bunch when the game first came out. She is a real cunt at higher difficulties with all the poison shit she throws around.
 
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IDK how you could posisbly miss it. Its not the spider pit below the Goblin king guy its the in the town. You can drop down there through the well.
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I was talking about the Goblin Camp, no idea what you mean!
 
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I was talking about the Goblin Camp, no idea what you mean!
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Blighted Village there is a well right in the middle of the crossroads, opion to inspect it jump down. It's a pretty large spider lair. I think you can jump down from inside the well in certain spots to the underdark. There's more than just a spider boss.
 
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I was talking about the Goblin Camp, no idea what you mean!
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Yeah I jumped down the well for lolz and its full of spiders and stuff. Alternatively there's a false wall in the forge where you can make the Sussur Bark weapons.
 
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Phazael said:
If I remember right, Hunters Mark and a couple other random debuffs work similarly. Kind of amazing how well thought out that fight was and all the different outcomes. I mostly spam Magic Missile cheese to pop the duplicates, but I remember reloading that shit a bunch when the game first came out. She is a real cunt at higher difficulties with all the poison shit she throws around.
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Whenever I do the Hag it revolves around having Lae'Zel sprint to her and just clowning her with Battlemaster Trip. If you got the Sussur Bark sword prior to going down there she has no chance. Those weapons are good for so long because one hit with it and enemies are silenced for 2 rounds.
 
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Yeah I jumped down the well for lolz and its full of spiders and stuff. Alternatively there's a false wall in the forge where you can make the Sussur Bark weapons.
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I found the bark forge.

I think I remember now, oh shit I went in there first play through when I didn't know what I was doing and fucking died. Never went back.
 
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The game is very rewarding for multiple plays, which is why I think it is probably deserving of an all time great status. I mean I must have finished the game at least ten times by now and I still find shit I never saw before on prior runs, which really only can be said about Elden Ring at this point for modern games. And thats before you even start to dick around with modding. Its not a perfect game, but its imperfections are a big part of its charm and why its so memberable/engaging.
 
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I got the playtest to work so I'm trying the new subclasses.

Half Orc Drunken Monk Durge
Shadow Sorcerer Shadowheart
Crown Paladin Lae'zel
Glamour Bard Astarion

Yes, I did this so I could justify instrument proficiency for everyone.

I'm taking my time going slow. Really savoring this game. I love it.
 
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I found the bark forge.

I think I remember now, oh shit I went in there first play through when I didn't know what I was doing and fucking died. Never went back.
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This also means you never got the key to the Necronomicon.

Also Phazael Phazael not sure if you ever noticed buuuut in the Owlbear cave that one spear you get two pieces of is a bit special. The dead True Soul right outside and his two companions say he died to the Owlbear and you get the spear shaft. If you go kill the Owlbear and get the second half the spear you can put back together has a massive damage bonus... against Spiders.
 
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This game is really exceptional at replays. I always find shit I never noticed or NPCs I never talked to and routes I never took.
 
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TJT said:
This also means you never got the key to the Necronomicon.

Also Phazael Phazael not sure if you ever noticed buuuut in the Owlbear cave that one spear you get two pieces of is a bit special. The dead True Soul right outside and his two companions say he died to the Owlbear and you get the spear shaft. If you go kill the Owlbear and get the second half the spear you can put back together has a massive damage bonus... against Spiders.
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I'm stupid. I made that spear last night and thought it would only be useful against the spectators. Didn't realize it would help with spiders.
 
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I'm really paying attention to items and item synergy this time around.
 
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TJT said:
This also means you never got the key to the Necronomicon.

Also Phazael Phazael not sure if you ever noticed buuuut in the Owlbear cave that one spear you get two pieces of is a bit special. The dead True Soul right outside and his two companions say he died to the Owlbear and you get the spear shaft. If you go kill the Owlbear and get the second half the spear you can put back together has a massive damage bonus... against Spiders.
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Yep, carried that book around until the end.
 
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TJT said:
This also means you never got the key to the Necronomicon.

Also Phazael Phazael not sure if you ever noticed buuuut in the Owlbear cave that one spear you get two pieces of is a bit special. The dead True Soul right outside and his two companions say he died to the Owlbear and you get the spear shaft. If you go kill the Owlbear and get the second half the spear you can put back together has a massive damage bonus... against Spiders.
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Yeah Ive done that quest some, but normally by the time I get to underdark to face the big spider I have better weapons on my mele guys (even if I did not exploit the cambrian for the flame sword in the intro).
 
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Ah man. I just now found out you could get Shovel as a permanent familiar even if you aren't a wizard.
 
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There's a guy on twitch that does solo run after solo run on honor mode and things like only one rest at the end/start of an act. He was using shovel. I watched a few minutes and he said he had 4,000+ hours in BG3. Okay then.

The few minutes I watched it he was going on and on about how dumb people were using whatever method to do leap of faith in shar guantlet instead of looking at the floor for the map. Pretty funny. He got to the end of the trial and forgot to start the trial and had to go back and plop fell dead end of run. I watched it for maybe 10 minutes, he seemed like he knew a ton of shit. Except make sure to start the trial. PowerHour or something was name. It was pretty entertaining for those 10 minutes.
 
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