Black Desert

Sabbat said:

The new Nouver costume. Unfortunately, Conti failed to mention to get the costume once you've upgraded the armour to PEN is spending 15 billion silver on the 30 crystals you need for the turn in for the costume. Yeah, that means the costume costs 30 billion.

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And it's 30 bil for each character. I hope you only wanted one! Costume isn't cool enough for me to want to pursue it, especially since it's locked behind bosses.

JOESAN21 said:

That is insane. That is what, a full Blue Carrok upgrade or almost three dream horses? It is a cool costume and would be fun to make, but 30B is an insane amount of money. Are they just going for the full PEN lvl 63s?

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Honestly, I don't really have a problem with 30B in cost. I can make 1B+/day if I go full tryhard. The issue I have is that it's gated behind fucking boss content, which is giga retarded. Locking things behind specific spawn times and forcing content to become "chorelike" is one of my largest complaints of PA's game design.

Again, I don't really have a major problem with the idea of rare costumes (La Orzeca outfit is great design) as a carrot to pursue when your gear upgrades are measured in months, but the way they gated this one is ridiculous.

Was that the hacker video?

JOESAN21 said:

Dumb question but what are you doing to make 1Bil a day? I’ve only got limited time right now. So my silver had dropped. I’m trying to figure out what to do for a consistent $$ flow. Are you mostly grinding?

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If you have the gear, you could probably make that at the various Elvia grind spots in a day, if you sell everything. I believe some people with the right Sailing/Bartering setup can make that much, or close to it.

Here is a short write-up about the new Atoraxxion dungeon/area. The rewards seems alright, but probably only when a full fun could be done quickly.

Atoraxxion Dungeon Guide – BDFoundry

JOESAN21 said:

Dumb question but what are you doing to make 1Bil a day? I’ve only got limited time right now. So my silver had dropped. I’m trying to figure out what to do for a consistent $$ flow. Are you mostly grinding?

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Well, I have a 340CP worker empire that probably brings in 15-20ish mil/day, my farms are around 40m, and cooking right around 70m/day with just buying meals and converting. I haven't even bothered with fishing, ever since I could farm spots worth 100m+/hour - in fact, now that you basically get almost free TET boss gear with Narcillian, you can pretty much farm those types of spots right out of the gate. So, I generate around 120-130m a day just in passive income.

From there, it's just about how badly I want to tryhard at Elvia, Sycraia, Star's End, etc. In the case of Star's End, a lot of the income depends on luck. Some hours are around 100m, other hours you can get a lucky streak and pull 300-500m. I usually mix my spots up so that I don't want to blow my brains out and end up hating the spot (I did this with Ronaros farming for the infinite pot - still can't farm there to this day). So, I'll do something like farm Bloody Monastery for 2-3 hours a day for 4 or 5 days, then on the weekend I might go balls deep in a spot like Star's End and just farm it for 4-5 hours each day on Saturday and Sunday. The following week I might go Star's End for an hour or two a day, then hit up Orcs really hard on the weekend. Shit like that like.

Lifeskilling is kind of a waste of time, in my opinion. With Elvia spots, you just can't compete on silver/hour anymore, even at PEN Manos mastery. Even prior to Elvia, grinding spots like Syrcraia and Star's End were right about even/slightly ahead and they weren't limited by energy, nor did they require the time investment of gathering knowledge to bump up your energy pool. I used to recommend people with low gear score rush to TET: Loggia and start farming silver for gear that way, but now that you're almost handed TET boss gear after questing, I can't even really do that. Sure, you can make more lifeskilling than Narcillian gear, but all that money you spent on Manos accessories, you could've instead invested into TET/PEN boss gear and farm even more silver/hour. Plus, fully investing in lifeskilling means you're going to have to neglect your grinding gear while you tier up on Manos. Sure, that's fine for when you're sitting at 650+ GS and it'll take you 1-2 months to get an accessory from TET to PEN, but if you do it early on, your ability to grind will suffer.

Lifeskilling is really only something I'd recommend if you just absolutely love the simplicity/"chill" factor of it and in that case I'd do it on a Shai that never levels above 49.

So, you making a billion a day, or a billion a week? on average.

Sabbat said:

So, you making a billion a day, or a billion a week? on average.

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Depends on how much you want to grind, plus whatever other daily income you can get passively. If you can grind the higher end spots for several hours a day, you can hit 1b/day. When I was logging in each day, or keeping the client running while at work, my worker empire would make quite a lot each week in addition to Imperial Box turn ins and grinding for an hour with Agris somewhere each day. This would easily make 1b/wk, not including drops from Rift Bosses / Field Bosses / Events.

So, a billion a day is 6-8 hours high-end (Elvia, UW, SE) with a little wiggle room for drops. A billion a week is 1-2 hours a day, doing basically anything that isn't pot piece grinding.

I should add: I started playing again (and restarted from scratch) 6 months ago on the SEA server. I've got a bunch of 61 alts, one that is Guru 2 cooking, Master 2 Gathering and Master 23 Fishing. My combat main is a 62 Hashashin, 273ap and 320 dp. I billion a week sounds great when you're just starting out, but if you're at the same level or greater than me, 1 billion a week is fucking terrible. At best, that kind of income would see me buy 2 PEN (armour, I need 2-3 at 20-26 bill a pop) items in a year.

I've had some good weeks where stuff actually dropped, and got close to a billion in the day, but I can't keep that up forever grinding 7 hours a day.

Sabbat said:

So, a billion a day is 6-8 hours high-end (Elvia, UW, SE) with a little wiggle room for drops. A billion a week is 1-2 hours a day, doing basically anything that isn't pot piece grinding.

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If it's taking you 8 hours of grinding to reach 1b, you need better gear, better combos, or a better class.

Sabbat said:

I should add: I started playing again (and restarted from scratch) 6 months ago on the SEA server. I've got a bunch of 61 alts, one that is Guru 2 cooking, Master 2 Gathering and Master 23 Fishing. My combat main is a 62 Hashashin, 273ap and 320 dp. I billion a week sounds great when you're just starting out, but if you're at the same level or greater than me, 1 billion a week is fucking terrible. At best, that kind of income would see me buy 2 PEN (armour, I need 2-3 at 20-26 bill a pop) items in a year.

I've had some good weeks where stuff actually dropped, and got close to a billion in the day, but I can't keep that up forever grinding 7 hours a day.

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Pretty much. That is why I felt getting blackstar armor/weapons was the most efficient path for me and my casual play. I only have 3 upgrades to work towards at the moment; two TET Distos and a Garmoth Heart. The disto's will tank my DP a bit, but they should put me in the 281 bracket.

Server clusters can also change what potential money you can be expected to make as well. SEA is... kinda fucked for two reasons.



... and there's the rampant "piloting", paying someone to grind on your account for 2-3 dollars an hour. Which means high end spots are perma camped. With the extremely low channel count, there's quite often no place to grind. There's always constant harassment at the spots as well, either PK or just straight people grinding over the top of you. Inflation is the next biggest problem with PENs going for 20-26 billion.

Well, this is weird:



Also, possible new class coming with the "New Tide" update this summer could be a Pirate.