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The freedom to just say "fuck it" and go is massive. Even if I wanted to die being able to pick the spot and go there is amazing, even with extreme poverty you have options if you don't give a fuck.
Famm
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Are you talking about poor in the United States here? I promise you the poorest of the poor ghetto or trailer trash people even in nice medium security joints with g-pop and daily movement or even in lower security with options for work releasecan not waitto be released back to their fat toothless wife in her urine soaked double wide with nothing but sub flooring and a leaky roof. Fact.
Personally I'd take even living the worst third world country life on the planet over super max, but you could sort of make a case for it I guess. North Korea (as a native) even sounds better to me.
Here, this is the closest you will ever get to being "outdoors" for the next 25 years. That half hour of chin ups going to instill lots of hope?
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I think you are clinically depressed and need food badly. Seriously, get help if you really think this way and aren't just feeling sorry for yourself.
No matter how poor you are you can go outside, fuck a woman, get a job, watch tv, have a family, hope for something different, do something, ANYTHING.
Loser Araysar
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if you're in supermax, you're a lifer. so make that 40-60 years instead of 25.Are you talking about poor in the United States here? I promise you the poorest of the poor ghetto or trailer trash people even in nice medium security joints with g-pop and daily movement or even in lower security with options for work releasecan not waitto be released back to their fat toothless wife in her urine soaked double wide with nothing but sub flooring and a leaky roof. Fact.
Personally I'd take even living the worst third world country life on the planet over super max, but you could sort of make a case for it I guess. North Korea (as a native) even sounds better to me.
Here, this is the closest you will ever get to being "outdoors" for the next 25 years. That half hour of chin ups going to instill lots of hope?
Famm
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Well I said 25 based on the guy in the article. Once again though, maybe I'm used to liberal evil tax land where we give people crazy shit like human rights even after they murder, but I didn't think that many people were generally kept at supermax for such extreme stretches. Some guys yes, but they have to be so fucking psycho that you don't really feel bad for them about it. Dude writing the article is leaving something out, he's far too lucid a writer unless he's a real life Hannibal Lector he would have been given a shot at normal max by now.
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Mist
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Not to derail the whole thread but we can't get help. Went to the town, who's poorly maintained ditch is what flooded our house, begged for any local/state/federal assistance, they told us to "shut the fuck up or get a lawyer." Literally. Have a lawyer now but it costs money. Can't pay the mortgage and the bills AND pay for all the repairs AND pay for a lawyer so some things we have to do without and sometimes that shit is food.
FEMA said we have good credit so get a loan. Gave us almost nothing when they gave our neighbors thousands for 1/10th the damages. Can't get a significant loan because the house isn't in condition to use as collateral.
Got Habitat for Humanity out to the house, they said the house was fucked (their words) but they didn't want to touch it.
Another "nonprofit" tried to buy our house for not even what the land itself is worth so they could have it rezoned and sell it for profit.
People that have helped so far:
The United Way sent people to sterilize the carpets and remove the moldy insulation but that just helped make the winter more brutal, but at least you can breathe in the house now.
The Mennonite Disaster Service sent people in lumberjack outfits and little prairie dresses to remove some trees that were threatening to crush the house, and definitely would have come down right on the house during Nemo. These people were totally awesome.
PS: Endlessly dealing with lawyers fucking sucks. So that part of prison I already experience almost daily.
The chains of obligations, real or imagined, can be just as binding psychologically as prison walls can physically. This is going off into a pretty off topic area but a lot of people in difficult life situations would see a certain amount of freedom in prison over their life due to a certain freedom of obligations they feel it would give them.
Normal prison, not supermax crazy shit.
Though I fully believe and understand how a person could end up in bad places emotionally where it seems like it would be a good escape, only to realize after a few days or weeks or months that it wasn't a very good long-term plan.
Despair, stress and depression, especially over an ever increasing amount of time can lead one to progressively darker and darker places emotionally where progressively more and more normally unthinkable things seem like potentially good ideas to escape from the source of those feelings.
Normal prison, not supermax crazy shit.
Though I fully believe and understand how a person could end up in bad places emotionally where it seems like it would be a good escape, only to realize after a few days or weeks or months that it wasn't a very good long-term plan.
Despair, stress and depression, especially over an ever increasing amount of time can lead one to progressively darker and darker places emotionally where progressively more and more normally unthinkable things seem like potentially good ideas to escape from the source of those feelings.
Famm
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I understand how one can say that, but its not true. There is nothing in the outside world that remotely compares to what imprisonment does to a man psychologically.
Mist...I don't fucking know what to say to your ass man. Where is the rest of your family?
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Oh yeah my stepdad took off to take care of his father while he was dying and decided not to bother coming back because that's how fucked the situation is. Sends money to pay for his half of the mortgage when he feels like it, which is basically never.
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You have proof of course that he did this? That stuff usually comes out at the trial.
If that were true, people outside prison wouldn't go into terminal downward spirals of drugs or drinking or end up killing themselves.
You can only make that statement from a wholly rational standpoint, which humans aren't. Even then, most prisons aren't too horrible as you'll just get out eventually, right?
Famm
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False equivalence. Its a different world in every sense of the phrase. And I'm really referring to hard time more than "getting out eventually".
Loser Araysar
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basically all your whining can be summed up with "boo hoo, i dont have enough money"
you own a house, which is more than 99% of the world can say and you'd rather be in prison. get some perspective, brah. sell your shit shack, move into an apt, get a job.
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It's not MY house to sell. Selling the house would barely cover what's left on the mortgage. I can move out but what the fuck do I do with my mother? I've got 2 shitty jobs and an online business (and I go to school) and it's not enough. Rents around here are way more than people actually can afford to pay at what you can expect to make at jobs around here. Hence why a "nonprofit" wants to buy my land for peanuts and then get it rezoned for "affordable housing." My mom has all sorts of special doctors she has to go to so I can't just upend her and move her to another state even if I knew of a good place to go.
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