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Fuse

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I can move out .
Yea, you could. You could do a lot of things. You choose not to for whatever reasons, possibly commendable ones, but it's still a choice. I think you are underestimating how soul crushing having NO choice and NO control over anything would be.

Not to mention that all of the stuff you mentioned is solvable, most of it will solve itself eventually. Your mom will pass eventually. So will the dog. The house isn't your responsibility. You are going to school.

Lots of opportunity for a brighter future. In supermax there is pretty much zero.

If you honestly can't see any of that, you might be clinically depressed and should definitely seek help.
 

Mist

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time to jettison your mom. dont live like like a suicidal prisoner just because of her.
Ditch my own mother and walk away from everything I've ever had, and the house I've tried to salvage and save for 3 years, and try to start over, with no family or anything else to fall back on.

Makes prison sound better and better.
 

Mist

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If you honestly can't see any of that, you might be clinically depressed and should definitely seek help.
I have a fucking psychology degree. I'm well aware of the mental health issues involved. I went back to school to be an actuary despite the fact the idea of it disgusts me because I need to make a lot more money and already had a lot of stats classes.
 

BrutulTM

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Prison as a goal is NOT out of reach. Dream big, you can do it.
 

Loser Araysar

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Ditch my own mother and walk away from everything I've ever had, and the house I've tried to salvage and save for 3 years, and try to start over, with no family or anything else to fall back on.

Makes prison sound better and better.
yeah, i guess you should keep doing what you're doing instead. sounds much better.
 

Pancreas

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The waves of unity and division experienced in this one thread is making me feel queesy. I get motion sickness easily.

  • Everyone comes together in shock (or just jaded disgust) over the attack.
  • Quickly, people become divided by the speculation and conspiracy theories.
  • Everyone agrees that the news coverage sucks.
  • People are at odds about some of the tactics the police use.
  • The group pulls together in the final moments of the chase and cheer when the final suspect is apprehended.
  • Now we have no less than 5 or 6 debates all resulting from the way the suspect is being handled.

Anyways, to address a small number of the concerns raised so far: The original authors of the constitution realized the folly of being held to immutable laws. That is why they included the amendment process in addition to the ability to draft new laws. So not even the constitution is immune from change. Under no circumstance should the constitution be ignored. If it proves itself to be an artifact that impedes progress, we have only ourselves to blame for not keeping it relevant and healthily up to date.

As for due process with the bombing suspect. I completely understand the need to extract information from the suspect to try and determine if there are other devices, other plots, other groups, other threats. However, this need for information should always be seen as atemporarymeasure to ensure the safety of the public, before relinquishing this control and entering the judicial process. That is the key difference between suspension of Miranda rights and enemy combatant status, time.

The enemy combatant status is troubling regardless of circumstance. It creates a limbo in which people are simply lost to the eyes of justice. There can be nothing resembling justice for those hurt by the individuals held in this way. Justice requires a finality, a closure to a situation. It requires that a person is proven to be the perpetrator of evil their victims suspect them to be, and then condemned for such acts.

Enemy combatant status requires nothing except a judgement call that an individual needs to be detained. That's it. No evidence required. There are individuals that have lost years of their lives to this system, eventually proven to be absolutely innocent, and then set free. That right there should be enough to abolish the whole concept and prove, that whatever benefits gained from indefinite detention, are crushed by the massive human rights violation of wrongful incarceration without trial.

We do not choose when or where we might be attacked next. The only thing we can truly dictate is how we react. Our reactions to dire circumstance reflects who we are at a fundamental level. The reactions of everyone who ran into danger to help save lives and mitigate tragedy; shows a society filled with people who still care about each other. The actions of the Boston PD and the cooperation by the citizens of Boston and the outlying communities in apprehending the suspects; shows dedication to justice and the desire to send a strong message to anyone else who might think that such actions can shake us. And the millions of other stories of people helping each other through yet another bad situation that don't share the spotlight because those involved would probably shun the attention anyways; shows that even if something isn't covered by the media, it can still be remarkable.

I would hate to see all of those positive reactions overshadowed by a short sighted and mindless denial of justice. By our actions, and reactions, will the world will know what kind of country we still are. Hopefully the next few months continue to show them something we can all be proud of.
 

Dumar_sl

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Put me in the camp of life in the supermax over a normal job, assuming you get books.

That would be my paradise. I would find somehow to make some makeshift earplugs to block out all the screams and headbangs and just get lost in my books. 23.5 of solitary? Please bitch, give me 24.
 

chaos

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Ditch my own mother and walk away from everything I've ever had, and the house I've tried to salvage and save for 3 years, and try to start over, with no family or anything else to fall back on.

Makes prison sound better and better.
I've started over several times in my life. It isn't what you think, it isn't some big horrible thing. I'm not saying ditch your mom, of course not. But things? A house? Who cares? You are not your possessions. You're not your fucking khakis. I know it is kind of trite now, but that is one thing from Fight Club that was right on the money. We collect things, our whole lives, and they are meaningless. Lose everything just once and you will understand how liberating that really is.
 

chaos

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Put me in the camp of life in the supermax over a normal job, assuming you get books.

That would be my paradise. I would find somehow to make some makeshift earplugs to block out all the screams and headbangs and just get lost in my books. 23.5 of solitary? Please bitch, give me 24.
This explains so much. Fuckin aspergers.
 

BrutulTM

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Put me in the camp of life in the supermax over a normal job, assuming you get books.

That would be my paradise. I would find somehow to make some makeshift earplugs to block out all the screams and headbangs and just get lost in my books. 23.5 of solitary? Please bitch, give me 24.
You are a few cop murders away from achieving this dream.
 

chaos

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Seriously. Blow up a police station, sit outside with your hands in the air when backup arrives to give you some stick time. Then you get to go to "paradise."
 

mkopec

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Wow there is some idiots up in this here thread. Supermax instead of a job so you can read books all day? Let me guess, because you are a slave to the system?
 

Mist

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I've started over several times in my life. It isn't what you think, it isn't some big horrible thing. I'm not saying ditch your mom, of course not. But things? A house? Who cares? You are not your possessions. You're not your fucking khakis. I know it is kind of trite now, but that is one thing from Fight Club that was right on the money. We collect things, our whole lives, and they are meaningless. Lose everything just once and you will understand how liberating that really is.
That's fucking just as much bullshit too and you know it.
 

chaos

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Not really. You have to feel it to understand. It is like breaking up with someone, you think it will be horrible and you just feel like a million pounds was lifted off your back. Sometimes something you think will be the worst thing in your life turns out to make you feel really fucking good. You're studying psych, you explain it, because I don't understand it.
 

Algiz

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Is this like the thing where people on welfare are enjoying an awesome free ride with their fridges and microwaves?