Brave Frontier

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Would you believe me if I told you I hardly ever raided until a few days ago? Just couldn't handle the repitition. Anyway, got 4 Almighty Imps from completing RC4, which was actually only 3 imps away from maxing him. Making myself raid more now because I really, really need spheres. Don't have a single Malice Jewel.

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Evidently I replied instead of editing. Anyway...

Ruby and Selena - and Tridon and Ultor, if they're any good - are completely unimped and I have zero. Oguro is maybe 30% imped.

Ao-_sl said:

I love the Global exclusive units... because the pixel art on the sprites is actually a better quality.

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I just want Xenia . I'm sure I'll be glad for Deimos when harder raids start hitting and I'm already using him for RC4, but Xenia is a true Raaga killer AND I WANT HER.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Would you believe me if I told you I hardly ever raided until a few days ago? Just couldn't handle the repitition. Anyway, got 4 Almighty Imps from completing RC4, which was actually only 3 imps away from maxing him. Making myself raid more now because I really, really need spheres. Don't have a single Malice Jewel.

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Damn good timing!

The repetition is definitely not one of the most fun things going, I agree, but between slots and sphere crafting it's worth it. On the plus side, as long as you are using some of the unique spheres here and there, you'll want fewer malice/buffer spheres. I've gotten numerous sphere frogs, imps and other toys 'n trash from the raid medals though - I'd do raids just for that in spite of them being monotonous.

I have started hoarding my medals because supposedly they are going to add Imp Artons and Burst Emperors to the slots at some point. The downside to the hoarding is I don't have a real income of Imps outside the rare parade right now.

It is going to be a long wait for the patch to be over tomorrow to see what Tridon/Ultor and the spheres for the new characters have in store.

While we're on the topic: I'm noticing that I get waaaaaaaaay more drops if I host a public game. Been killing Melion all day, publicly and privately and more drops certainly suggests more chances for a particular drop. Are rare drops shared or do I have to get the kill shot?

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

While we're on the topic: I'm noticing that I get waaaaaaaaay more drops if I host a public game. Been killing Melion all day, publicly and privately and more drops certainly suggests more chances for a particular drop. Are rare drops shared or do I have to get the kill shot?

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You have to kill certain body parts first to get a chance at certain rare drops. Also your Star Rating at the end will amplify your chances for drops. If you are hosting your own (or are in a raid from the very beginning) and anyone either joins late or leeches, you'll do a bigger share of the overall damage and get a higher star rating. The more people in a raid group, the greater potential for multiple stars.

Kill shots don't matter...Item drop rate buffs/skill/spheres don't matter. However you *can* get a bonus added to your score by using certain crafted raid items such as beacons, detectors and the atk/defense orbs. Easier to get those from slots than harvesting and crafting them...but I use the only sparingly.

I find it keeps things more interesting to try to tweak my raid squads/spheres for more damage and get multiple stars via damage alone. I also avoid joining a game already in progress...I don't necessarily host my own, but I do make sure that I am there from the very beginning either way.

Cool, thanks! Fucking Melion is killing me. Not a single drop.

One other thing: higher raid class missions give better drop rates...as well as X1 X2 raids.

If a certain boss drops something you need and the boss appears in both rc3 and X1, do the X1.....or rc3 vs rc4, do rc4.

I do rc3 for Shiny Jewels, but it is a bloody nightmare compared to the rates for other jewels in X1 and Rc4. I haven't looked but I'm hoping shiny jewels drop in an X2 raid for the better rates. That rc3 shit is for the birds.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Cool, thanks! Fucking Melion is killing me. Not a single drop.

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Been farming Dark Wings, Dark Works for both Melion and Reduhark.

It'll take a while, kinda just have to make sure you are in the right places then let the drops come to you.....and just soak up raid medals in the meantime.

Patch was delayed a full day.

Stats on sbs are out. Tridon is awesome, ultor is garbage

Stats are subject to change before the patch goes live, at least that's what I'm telling myself with how bad ultor is.

Ishad_sl said:

Stats are subject to change before the patch goes live, at least that's what I'm telling myself with how bad ultor is.

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Are you looking at the info from Deathmax?

I'm considering what I am seeing to be very, very preliminary as Tridon doesn't even have an extra skill listed.....Taking both of them with a huge grain of salt atm.

Tridon is closer to what I'd have expected of him (though I was thinking 40% hp, not 50%)....still, not very surprised. His defense buff is nice, but his bc/hc buff is, imo, a liability. + crit on LS only goes up 5% (same as Ultor)....didn't have to go up at all though, so that is welcome I suppose.

Tridons UBB seems quite valuable but very, very situational, whereas Ultors is a *lot* more usable but far less meta.

Both strike me as evolution rather than revolution, but Ultor is suffering more because of it. ...Particularly because of the inevitable Deimos comparison.

In a lot of ways, Ultor is what we might have expected from his 7 star, but Deimos is what we would have wanted.....between his LS and his ES, he is still one hell of a lot beefier in the stats department than folks are giving him credit for I think.....just rare as hell for stats to become meta.

Either way, the data seems very early and changes wouldn't surprise me in the least....almost wish I hadn't seen it because I'll be disappointed if Tridon ships pre-nerfed. heh

I feel like today is Brave Frontiers version of purgatory. Waiting in limbo for Tridon and Ultors final release profiles, including Tridons Extra Skill, as well as Zenia and Deimos's unique spheres, all of which were supposed to be live right now.

I normally dislike pointless speculation, but my mind can't help but go there today.

I'm seeing folks wishing for BB reduction on Tridons Extra Skill to reduce that 59 BC cost on his SBB, Elimo style.....but I disagree. Ever since it popped into my head, nothing seems more desirable than having +Stats and "Adds status cure/null ails to bb/sbb." (Slightly beefed up version of Edea's ES, 'cause, you know, sbs global exclusive, and because they can.) That would be beautiful to behold.

Whatever the reality turns out to be tomorrow, it will be disappointing in comparison. Gods Damnit.

Leto Eu`Acumen_sl said:

I feel like today is Brave Frontiers version of purgatory. Waiting in limbo for Tridon and Ultors final release profiles, including Tridons Extra Skill, as well as Zenia and Deimos's unique spheres, all of which were supposed to be live right now.

I normally dislike pointless speculation, but my mind can't help but go there today.

I'm seeing folks wishing for BB reduction on Tridons Extra Skill to reduce that 59 BC cost on his SBB, Elimo style.....but I disagree. Ever since it popped into my head, nothing seems more desirable than having +Stats and "Adds status cure/null ails to bb/sbb." (Slightly beefed up version of Edea's ES, 'cause, you know, sbs global exclusive, and because they can.) That would be beautiful to behold.

Whatever the reality turns out to be tomorrow, it will be disappointing in comparison. Gods Damnit.

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I'm generally not keen on playing the part of an indignant consumer, but the way this is playing out continues to rub me the wrong way. One day before the long-awaited patch, they release a Raaga killer and a defensive unit that exceeds any realistic expectations of Ultor's update; rates are shit and most people need to summon 10 times; preliminary information regarding Ultor's upgrade is underwhelming and patch delayed a day; people wanting an awesome Ultor desperately pull for Deimos; patch tomorrow solidifies or refutes preliminary information about the 7 star upgrades; ?; ?; Bestie patch release.

This game has irritated me before, but it was always because of either RNG or barriers to progression. This shit right here? It stinks.

For whatever it's worth, I think the player/customer base has every justification for feeling exploited/manipulated right now....and not just the last two days, but going back to the previous Edea/Ultor etc rate up before that started the dominos falling in a series of pre-planned events that included a surprise unit release (in terms of timing anyway), and a (surprise, surprise) patch delay that just so happened to coincide with the already in-place rate up schedule of the afore mentioned surprise unit release.

That Edea/Ultor rate up caught me in it's web, and I regretted it within a day. Not because of the RNG, but because of information intentionally withheld.

I don't want to get anyone riled up - and I am still enjoying this game - but there is no doubt that the salt right now is real, and completely justified.

The frustrating part is that Gumi did not need to play it out this way. Tons of players more than willing to happily drop all manner of coin on new units without being manipulated into it.

I have a great dislike for micro-transaction models as it is, but a huge percentage of the gaming industry has long since moved in that direction, and this sort of bad behavior on the part of publishers is exactly what micro-transaction systems encourage. They value quarterly earnings over the long-term loyalty of their customer base.

Unfortunately, the only people who lose are the players. The folks who manipulated the timing of events and deliberate withholding of information are laughing all the way to the bank.