Brave Frontier

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

I spent about half of them on inventory space and two friend list expansions.

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How much friends space are you using now btw? I was half considering just maxing it out....make it harder to find individuals outside of raids/trials/etc but for most the harder stuff, you get to pick whoever you want anyway....more friends = more gifts and more honor

I know Unit >>>>> Type and all, but I'm not 100% convinced this ol' girl is terribly usable in any place where you actually need mitigation....Behold, those HP's!:


Once I unlock her extra skill, she only gets +20% to stats.....She *needs* her unique sphere or it defeats whole purpose I'd use her for (status cure).....also, if I'm using her for status cure, it only makes sense for me to equip the status immunity sphere in her secondary slot.

I just threw a Medulla gem on her to see what she'd look like with +20% stats and before leadership skills she'd go into battle with only 7,490 HP's...which is ~2,500 lower than everybody else. I could drop 30x HP Imps on her and she'd still be 1,000 HP's less than everyone else....but that is a lot of bloody HP imps and frankly, I think she is in line behind other characters as it is

I could sphere frog her and fodder/burst frog her up properly without it costing me too much, but I'm not sure I'd do more than that. I really wanted her in anything better than Oracle - but even so, I didn't realize her HP's would be quite this anorexic.

Edit: Or to put it another way, she is the lowest HP 7-star I have, and her unique sphere prevents her from being able to go with anything more than +20% from spheres.

Leto Eu`Acumen_sl said:

I know Unit >>>>> Type and all, but I'm not 100% convinced this ol' girl is terribly usable in any place where you actually need mitigation....Behold, those HP's!:

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Once I unlock her extra skill, she only gets +20% to stats.....She *needs* her unique sphere or it defeats whole purpose I'd use her for (status cure).....also, if I'm using her for status cure, it only makes sense for me to equip the status immunity sphere in her secondary slot.

I just threw a Medulla gem on her to see what she'd look like with +20% stats and before leadership skills she'd go into battle with only 7,490 HP's...which is ~2,500 lower than everybody else. I could drop 30x HP Imps on her and she'd still be 1,000 HP's less than everyone else....but that is a lot of bloody HP imps and frankly, I think she is in line behind other characters as it is

I could sphere frog her and fodder/burst frog her up properly without it costing me too much, but I'm not sure I'd do more than that. I really wanted her in anything better than Oracle - but even so, I didn't realize her HP's would be quite this anorexic.

Edit: Or to put it another way, she is the lowest HP 7-star I have, and her unique sphere prevents her from being able to go with anything more than +20% from spheres.

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Oracle change should fix her for you, but who the hell knows when that is coming to Global.

BTW, wasn't this patch supposed to bring the dedicated Arena team slot? Am I just missing where that is set now?

LiquidDeath_sl said:

Oracle change should fix her for you, but who the hell knows when that is coming to Global.

BTW, wasn't this patch supposed to bring the dedicated Arena team slot? Am I just missing where that is set now?

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That is a good point about the Oracle changes...Might not be a huge difference, but it would sure take the edge off.

Unless I am mistaken, I read earlier that the code for the dedicated arena team options were in, but that it just wasn't activated yet....don't take my word on that though, can't look it up atm.

I find it hilarious how many Tridons there are running around today lol, it seems more people than I might have guessed had Tridon's collecting dust - and as far as 7-stars go he was easy to evolve. As good as he is as a leader though, he annihilates Griel in almost every possible way as a Sub...being a legitimate BC/HC buffer gives him a lot of life outside the leadership slot....I can see myself using Tridon as a sub a hell of a lot as soon as I fodder/burst him up.

Got Forgebreaker. 21,500 hp with 40 30 hp leads.

I had to use my Tridon as lead at least once just to taste the new HP possibilities with two 40% HP leads.


My Tridon has his Trident unique sphere equipped, Zenia has her unique sphere equipped also (I'm glad she is able to keep her HP's in combat respectable with only the +20% from her extra skill)...My Tridon in that pic has Zero Imps on him though, and none of my characters have a +Stat secondary sphere on, so there is still plenty of room for me to improve things. And Shame on Kikuri for being the only one who's slacking below the 16k HP club (But she has no Imps on her either lol, poor Kikuri)

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Got Forgebreaker. 21,500 hp with 40 30 hp leads.

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Nice! lol, was posting my screenie the same time you were making your post.

I've yet to break the 20k HP mark with one of my own characters yet, but Tridon is well on his way.

Thanks. Getting really frustrated with the game, though. Aside from Loch I don't have any real damage dealers unless I use them as lead, Shera is getting one-shot and I blew too many gems (like 25 out of 40) on Bestie and got nothing (though as with Ishad, I realize I shouldn't have summoned). My squad and resources are a shambles right now. Compound that with what you aptly call "The Patch" and I'm facing burnout.

Done with all four raid x2 spheres. Back to farming buffer jewels, and waiting for oulu/Michele's batch as I have no useful units to work on.

We're in the same boat, then. I'll level Quaid and Dion as resources permit, but goddamn. I can easily survive any of the new raids, but my damage is so fucking low it's unreal.

Just looked at units likely to be released over the next few weeks and concluded I want Bestie. Haven't been on much today but I'll have enough to get a ticket and do 5 summons once I get all dailies done. Gonna hoard the fuck out of gems afterwards regardless - nothing I absolutely require (minus Edea - *cry*) is likely to be released for a bit, and a Colt, Kira, Reis, Xenia, Oulu, Aaron, Will, Tazer, Rize - or of course EDEA - would make me happy. So I'm all in once I do five quests in whateverthefuckville.

WIIIIIIISH ME LUCK!

edit: that upcoming light mitigator and Reis are my most wanted, along with Bestie and Edea.

Also DRUUUUNK

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Just looked at units likely to be released over the next few weeks and concluded I want Bestie. Haven't been on much today but I'll have enough to get a ticket and do 5 summons once I get all dailies done. Gonna hoard the fuck out of gems afterwards regardless - nothing I absolutely require (minus Edea - *cry*) is likely to be released for a bit, and a Colt, Kira, Reis, Xenia, Oulu, Aaron, Will, Tazer, Rize - or of course EDEA - would make me happy. So I'm all in once I do five quests in whateverthefuckville.

WIIIIIIISH ME LUCK!

edit: that upcoming light mitigator and Reis are my most wanted, along with Bestie and Edea.

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Hold out for glyphs batch of you can. Glyph absolutely stomps reis. Plus I'd wait to see what the future sbs units are like. I wish they weren't behind on releasing old units 7*s. I really need melchio/Michelle to make ultor shine.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

WIIIIIIISH ME LUCK!

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Good Luck Doc', Let us know how it turned out.

Was 20 short of ticket anyway. Still gonna blow the ticket as I always do, but slowl encroaching sobriety prevailed. Gems intact.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Was 20 short of ticket anyway. Still gonna blow the ticket as I always do, but slowl encroaching sobriety prevailed. Gems intact.

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LOL...probably a good thing Now you can save those gems for the next popular rate-up or the Glyph batch.

Ishad_sl said:

Hold out for glyphs batch of you can. Glyph absolutely stomps reis. Plus I'd wait to see what the future sbs units are like. I wish they weren't behind on releasing old units 7*s. I really need melchio/Michelle to make ultor shine.

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Damn. Need to look that mofaka up. I have a Reis friend that I use sometimes over Zenia. Damage seems close enough that it's hard to parse the difference between them. Seems lower than Kira and Colt, though.

edit: Beat Trial 5 last night and definitely cheated with a Bestie friend. Feels bad/good, man. Didn't even have to count turns, which is good because I wasn't capable of counting turns.

Was about to edit this into my last post, but it became a post of its own...

Glyph shits all over Reis, but I wouldn't sleep on Roa either....Roa is almost Raaga but with +30% HP's on his leadership skill...he doesn't quite match the DPS output of Zenia, but Zenia offers no bulk at all either.

...and for some thoughts on Global's leadership state-of-the-game...

With the addition of Deimos and Tridon, I suddenly feel like we have a super-abundance of really powerful leaders in extremely short order. Vesti still is huge for BB management and such, but she definitely isn't the singular leader she might have been. If Global's Deimos and Tridon existed in JPBF, the hype around Vesti would have been considerably tempered. Even Zenia simply as a pure DPS option is extremely popular as a friend/leader in raids even though she offers no bulk at all, but instead offers a constant stream of BC from spark.

You can only squeeze in so many leaders into one group lol....right now their are enough top candidates that having even one of them lets you cherry-pick a second one and still wish for 1 or 2 more just because the options are so amazing right now.

With almost ALL the issues from Tridon's shield being fixed right now, He is going to have at least a permanent sub slot in my groups. If someone told me two weeks ago there was a new sub unit coming that would give AoE Damage +140% Defense +30% BC/HC ? Shit, I'm interested...if you told me the unit would have all that plus a 3,000 hp, 3,000 defense elemental shield that works flawlessly? AND be one of the highest HP characters in the game? Sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiit. Outside of mitigators he is the best defensive sub in the game atm.

Deimos + Zenia is an amazing combination...throw Tridon in as a sub...a requisite mitigator of your choice makes 4..... I'm not saying I wouldn't love a Vesti, but there are only so many slots in a group, and some of my groups are wondering, "Vesti who?? We got this."




Edit: As you just mentioned Doc, Reis is in the conversation too - the only reason Reis isn't on the hype train is because Glyph is going to outdate him in 4 weeks time.... but make no mistake Reis is THE best crit buffer in Global today, and he is a Colt upgrade...if you weren't already running Colt + Claire in the same group to get those amazing stat boosts without needing to use their unique spheres, then Reis is the best crit option there is right now.

I feel like minimizing buff overlap is the most challenging part of squad building currently.