Brave Frontier

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Also gonna add that anyone who has their own Zenia has many, many more options by using her as a sub, adding bulk with a Bestie friend and removing altogether the need for Medina, thereby freeing up another slot.

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Thanks for the Info

Ya, I normally run my Zenia as lead pretty much everywhere lately, but even though I face-planted pretty hard on my last FG attempt, I went with a Zenia sub, and that might be the way for me to go.
(The last FG fail was my own fault....an ill-timed "press" instead of "swipe" on my Elimo ended the whole damn run...or to be clearer, I was trying to swipe and it registered a press....sometimes I think the game does that to test the calm of my temperment.)

Without Tora or Balgran, Fadahl is my best option for status infliction....really not great DPS there besides though.

My last run was with a Deimos friend (yours) but I might have to experiment with a Bestie instead - I was using Kikuri as a sub, and with Deimos at lead I was expecting better BC on hit, but my BB production felt spotty most of the time. I think you are on to something going with the instant BC fill tactic.

I think the group I'm gonna try for the next few times is:

Tridon (+Bulk Lead)
Zenia (Whoopass-on-demand)
Kikuri (Curse + BB fill)
Fadahl (Poison/Curse)
Elimo (Because Elimo)
(either) Deimos OR Bestie friend for the second leader slot (+Bulk +BB Fill, Status protection from Deimos)
Grahdens for the third leader slot (Light/Dark mitigation, Light/Dark retyping, +Bulk)

(yea, yea)


Ideally, I'd switch out...maybe Fadahl? (or Kikuri depending on BC needs) for a Grahden's sub, but I haven't done his GQ yet either. He could even replace my Tridon lead, might be even better strictly for the PITA light/dark bosses. I don't see me finishing that GQ anytime right away though.

Unless I am mistaken, this FG isn't actually going anywhere - pretty sure they'll just add new FG missions instead of replacing this one with a new one. But it is one of the things that doesn't cost huge energy to try and do, so that is handy anytime lol...almost a waste -not- to try.

Good luck! The problem I had with Bestie(and Deimos) is that bb generation in this FG is fucking terrible, even with 2+ targets. She just didin't fill me up enough. She's probably still a fantastic lead if you still have the imo-required Zenia as sub, though, but I have a feeling you'll be doing a lot of what I had to do - let either Bestie (Medina for me) of Zenia fill up to BB, boost the other to Bb, pop that too and enjoy your free Elimo (and probably others) SBB.

I had no problem doing that with Zenia because her bb brings other tangible benefits (and is Ruby-friendly). Bestie will just be Medina with an hp lead, at the cost of Zenia's massive damage LS. Or maybe not - your squad looks like it might be more spam-friendly than mine. But you're gonna need to have all fujins and the like available to burn down the last guy if you don't use Deimos friend and have a dps lead.

After I wiped on my first attempt on the last guy, I rebuilt for the express purpose of burning him the fuck down - hence ruby as an extremely zenia-friendly sub with zero overlap and high attack and deimos as a DoT-cheeser. The other three units were just utility and defense to get me there.

When I was fantasizing about having a Zenia as sub, the leads I wished I could roll with most were Deimos and Reis friend. Zeina sub + Reis would cover so many offensive bases. Deimos, Balgran, Elimo, Zenia, Reis friend and either Ruby or Medina.


Lemme know if I'm spamming too much. Just excited still.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

Good luck! The problem I had with Bestie(and Deimos) is that bb generation in this FG is fucking terrible, even with 2+ targets. She just didin't fill me up enough. She's probably still a fantastic lead if you still have the imo-required Zenia as sub, though, but I have a feeling you'll be doing a lot of what I had to do - let either Bestie (Medina for me) of Zenia fill up to BB, boost the other to Bb, pop that too and enjoy your free Elimo (and probably others) SBB.

I had no problem doing that with Zenia because her bb brings other tangible benefits (and is Ruby-friendly). Bestie will just be Medina with an hp lead, at the cost of Zenia's massive damage LS. Or maybe not - your squad looks like it might be more spam-friendly than mine. But you're gonna need to have all fujins and the like available to burn down the last guy if you don't use Deimos friend and have a dps lead.

After I wiped on my first attempt on the last guy, I rebuilt for the express purpose of burning him the fuck down - hence ruby as an extremely zenia-friendly sub with zero overlap and high attack and deimos as a DoT-cheeser. The other three units were just utility and defense to get me there.

When I was fantasizing about having a Zenia as sub, the leads I wished I could roll with most were Deimos and Reis friend. Zeina sub + Reis would cover so many offensive bases. Deimos, Balgran, Elimo, Zenia, Reis friend and either Ruby or Medina.


Lemme know if I'm spamming too much. Just excited still.

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LOL, naw, this is great. This is exactly the sort of discussion that helps the most.

Yea, I'm gonna have to consider the ups and downs of 1 bulk, 1 DPS lead vs 2 bulk leads + utility for rounds 24-30. I do prefer Deimos if I can make him work....he just brings so much to the table. ..and I hadn't even considered his usefulness as a black hole for the DoT's on that last round.

I feel like the Value of Zenia's Leadership skill starts to drop when you are not sparking much vs single targets... other leads can out-DPS her strictly from a leadership skills position....still, her total package is pretty outrageous though.....I agree, it is hard for me to imagine doing difficult content without a Zenia around now in some capacity or other. She's just too good to leave out.


...and to be completely honest, half the reason I started rushing through Trials (just the one left) and all this other stuff is because I want to get as much done as I can before they get to nerfing all my favorite characters lol. I don't actually think they will at this point, but some of these characters are ahead-of-their-time at best, or downright unbalanced at worst, and all of it is Advantage: Player. It is fun as all hell messing with some of these new characters, but I can't sit and call them balanced with a strait face....probably in 3 months time when the newest batches are giving them real competition....but even then, they are gonna stand tall for the foreseeable future.

Thank god for final hope buff. Now to never deal with that again.

I need to get on the Trials. FG pissed me the hell off, but my anger stemmed from the time commitment required to evn get to the challenging parts. But there's no gimmick - just make it through - and you're free to look at your entire roster and determine what works and what doesn't work via trial and error.

I don't feel that way with trials. I never feel like I'm throwing the best I have at them and instead feel that my squad has been beaten into a form of Gumi's choosing. I haven't evn tried Afla Dilith yet because I can't stand this regimented turncounting crap.

Grats, Ishad. Who'd you end up using? Edit: nm. Just saw attached image that won't show on phone

Lira's ggc and karl ex trial coming this week. Both are supposed to be stupid hard.

Also, if you're done with frontier gate. It is time to start auto farming the first 20 floors for points. Current rewards in jp are:

100 points: 1 Gem

1000 points: 4 Burst Frogs

10.000 points: Sphere Frog

20.000 points : 2 Imp Keys

50.000 points: 5 Almight Imp Arton

100.000 points: 5 Burst Emperors

200.000 points: Heavenly Bud: Increases Spark damage by 100%

400.000 points: Final Apocalypse (??????): Increase Spark damage and Elemental weakness damage by 50%

600.000 points: Shiny Anklet (??????????): Doubles normal hit count (+1 hit)

800.000 points: Godly Flower (????????): Increase ATK, DEF, REC by 75% and Spark damage by 50% when BB gauge is full

1.000.000 points: Divine Vessel/Gurapasu (?????=????): Increases BC regen per turn by 5, gives 7-8 BC when attacking and 5-7 BC when attacked (Needed for 7* Will's Extra Skill)


1 million total points is like 500 or so odd runs. Fucking hell.

Wow, thanks for the heads-up. Same scoring rules apply as FH?

Ishad_sl said:

Thank god for final hope buff. Now to never deal with that again.

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Grats man!

Was interesting to see you went with Aurelia.

Finally got the bitch!

Got busy for a while yesterday and ended up coming back to the game with more energy than I needed to level up....figured I'd yolo some of it away on my nemesis.

So now I get to spend, what? Almost two *whole days* with "beaten every trial in the game" status? lol Fuck, and the next one sounds nightmarish....it almost sounds more like having to do two trials back-to-back and both of them a PITA. I want a break from the Trials, but the sphere is exactly what my Edea needs to be viable though...gods damnit. I'm glad it exists but I might be taking a break from them anyway for a while to spend more time trying to finish Frontier Gate Mission 1 and getting 100% on Grand Quests.

Ishad_sl said:

Also, if you're done with frontier gate. It is time to start auto farming the first 20 floors for points. Current rewards in jp are:

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wow, some pretty nice spheres to have there though. 500 runs at 20 minutes each x 3 hours per orb = a long goddamn time to climb that ladder....a lot more for any of us who haven't actually finished FG Mission 1 and can't actually even get to the farming part yet Ima have to work harder to finish it for that reason alone it looks like.

(*cough*7-star Will and his spheres can go fuck himself*cough*)

Leto Eu`Acumen_sl said:

Grats man!

Was interesting to see you went with Aurelia.

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Ultimately I decided that elimo' slack of attack was too large a drain on my bc generation,plus he had a higher risk of getting one hit on stage 28. Aurelia had great synergy with feeva, I would use feeva's bb followed by Aurelia sbb. Since feeva's bb buffs rec and def and Aurelia converts rec to def the combo acts as a 240% def buff. I was really surprised how smooth it went. Probably still would have lost without the final hope buff which saved 3 units on floor 30.

Quide to point farming:Frontier Hunter - Frontier Gate Auto-Battle Guide to One Turn Kill Farming : bravefrontier

My team isn't great so it only puts up 2million points, but it goes quick.

Ishad_sl said:

Ultimately I decided that elimo' slack of attack was too large a drain on my bc generation,plus he had a higher risk of getting one hit on stage 28. Aurelia had great synergy with feeva, I would use feeva's bb followed by Aurelia sbb. Since feeva's bb buffs rec and def and Aurelia converts rec to def the combo acts as a 240% def buff. I was really surprised how smooth it went. Probably still would have lost without the final hope buff which saved 3 units on floor 30.

Quide to point farming:Frontier Hunter - Frontier Gate Auto-Battle Guide to One Turn Kill Farming : bravefrontier

My team isn't great so it only puts up 2million points, but it goes quick.

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I concluded the same thing about Elimo, which is why I had to go the instant BB fill route. It's not like a breaker Shera could survive that shit and those are my only two mitigators.

Interesting that your squad had difficulty with 30, whereas 29 was my nightmare. The first time I got to 30 with everybody still alive I blew it the fuck up. I wiped on 29 - or at least sustained casualties enough to ensure I wouldn't beat the last guy - many, many times.

edit: and like you, my successful run proceeded like a dream. No items used and everybody alive at 30. Used 1 (maybe both?) fujins and nothing else.

I'll add that when I ran my first point run, I couldn't believe how much BB filling improved without Elimo. Try to make that Edea work, Leto, and you'll not have to forego Zenia's SBB and blow a slot on a second insta-BB filler like I did.

Frontier gate is probably the hardest. You should auto farm the first 20 levels for points until you get a team ready for the last ten stages.

GGQ, you'll want to get your 6* grahdens. Clearing the rest has some nice stuff but nothing amazing.

Trials you'll want to look at if you can field a squad for the green menace and seria's trial as they have the most useful rewards.

Raids you should get your Athena spheres and then farm malice jewels. Spheres+ imps make a massive difference in unit power and shouldn't be neglected.

Probably gonna regret it but I've been farming the hell out of honor in lieu of 2x xp. I got a lot ofOracle Knights summoning for Edea, Zeina and Bestie - many dupes - and leveled to 120 and UBB'd the best typing for all of them and have zero burst frogs and crystals remaining and could use a few more sphere frogs.

Not sure what's up with those knights - of the preceding 7* batches, I've gotten two - Kanon (G) x 2- fron Feeva's, 3 (Claire, Ivris and very recently Quaid) from Claire's, 3 (Raaga, Zera, Oguro) from Raaga's, and from the Oracles Ruby x 2, Medina, Balgran x 3, Dion x 2.

Any of you high level guys feel like you need to level up for anything? I guess 180 energy would be nice for 6x Mega Metal Parades if you level up in the middle.

Last two batches have had a unit cost of 42, Lucius has a cost of 45. So current max team cost in jp is 213. Team cost is really the only reason I level these days.

In the Grahden's Grand Quest in order to field 4 groups, I have the cost to support 2 7-stars and 3 6-stars in each group with only 2 cost to spare, so there is that. In Trials I can still only deploy 2 functional squads of 3 possible.

After level 214 in Global right now at least, there isn't much urgency to leveling.....but that said, as long as there are 2x experience events going on (or half-vortex on a Monday etc), then I still see plenty of advantages to tossing a few more levels onto the pile while it is easy.

Right now I'm trying to split the difference between experience grinding @25 Energy per run vs Honor grinding @3 energy per run. I'm back up to 26k Honor points since 'Double' honor started back up.....I always *always* feel like I could have done things better, but I'm not entirely unhappy with my results so far this time.