Where did this post even come from?
I already discussed this. The article is right. It's not 77%. From the math I've seen, it's like 92% once you've factored out all the major reasonable confounds; degrees, family, less risk-taking behaviors like jumping from one company to another for horizontal advancement.
Do you have any proof that companies discriminate in pay rates based on gender? Like same job, same qualifications, but they have discriminatory pay rates in effect?
I didn't say anything about discrimination. I just said that once you've done the math and tried to factor out everything else, there's still an 8% gap. 8% isn't a bad number, and when you look at just single women it's closer to 4%. Individual ability is going to far overshadow those numbers. But those numbers are still there.
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times have I been accused of male-bashing, hating men, or putting women on pedestals when all of that is patently ridiculous? If anybody anywhere acknowledges that women face systemic disadvantages that men don't, a ton of MRA types will INSTANTLY jump in with cries of "feminazi!" and lists of reasons why things are so terrible for men. There is no discussion. There is no attempt to understand an alternate point of view. There is only knee-jerk overreaction by incredibly sensitive morons who can't stand, CAN'T STAND the idea that certain groups face systemic disadvantages and that, as a rational society, we should address that. I don't know what you don't get about that.
So you acknowledge my point, then? (That society disadvantages some groups more than others.)
Are you suggesting that ANY decision we make isn't based entirely on the culture that surrounds us and shapes our thought process? Jesus Christ, it's like you're intentionally obtuse.
If we assume for a second that there is zero discrimination (I realize this isn't true, and if discrimination can be identified it should be dealt with), then isn't the % gap due to personal choice or ability? Why would we want the outcomes to be exactly equal if the inputs aren't?
No we're not. Take two equally attractive women and give one a degree in gender studies and the other a degree in engineering. Does anyone honestly believe that more men would be attracted to the former than the latter?
Youre a lesbo. Any woman is attractive to ywku. You're literally the definition of zero standards
The best, most extensive data I've ever seen on the topic put the gap at 8% for women across the board, 4% for single women. I'm trying to find the exact paper. It attempted to statistically factor out personal choices such as having a family, wanting more secure jobs or jobs with better benefits versus jobs with higher pay. So once you factored everything else out, there was this 4-8% unexplained gap.
4-8% in what context? Just "all women collectively make 4-8% less than all men" or are they doing surveys of particular jobs?
