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Sebudai

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"Not happy w/ Miss Nevada's answer that to stop rape we should teach women to defend themselves.Why don't we teach men to not rape?"

Yeah, feminists. The problem is that we're failing to teach men to not rape.

Jesus fucking Christ.
 

Sebudai

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We need to teach men to not rape, just like we teach kids to not lie. Then nobody would ever rape, just like nobody ever lies.

This is the kind of retard logic we're getting from the feminist movement at this point. It's embarrassing.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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It's nice to see feminists and predatory human garbage on the same side of an issue - women should not ever do anything that can decrease their chances of becoming a victim.

If there was a news story about someone like Miss Nevada repeatedly organ striking some dude who didn't feel like taking no for an answer would that not be empowering? Take back the night and all that? I honestly don't understand what is even happening anymore.
 

Sebudai

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I honestly don't understand what is even happening anymore.
It's basically turned into a cult of victimhood. They are addicted to complaining, and the ultimate irony of it all is that nobody objectifies and infantilizes women like feminists do. They talk about women as though they're helpless objects that are acted upon but unable to act for themselves. Entirely powerless to take control of their own situations and totally reliant on the mercy of men. I can't believe more women aren't insulted by this shit.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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When I did my concealed carry class last summer the class had men and women of all ages and colors and I thought that was pretty great but I guess that because patriarchy I was really rape culture.
 

iannis

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We need to teach men to not rape, just like we teach kids to not lie. Then nobody would ever rape, just like nobody ever lies.

This is the kind of retard logic we're getting from the feminist movement at this point. It's embarrassing.
I'm pretty sure that if I buy her dinner it isn't rape.

It's a social contract, man.
 

Tanoomba

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We need to teach men to not rape, just like we teach kids to not lie. Then nobody would ever rape, just like nobody ever lies.

This is the kind of retard logic we're getting from the feminist movement at this point. It's embarrassing.
I was gonna stay silent because I actually agree that this backlash against Miss Nevada's response is pretty ridiculous.
However, you bring up an interesting point.

Officially, we do teach kids not to lie. Inevitably, they grow up to be liars just like everyone else. Why is that? Could it be because we lie to them from a young age for a variety of reasons (protect them from harsh truths, maintain a pleasant illusion, etc)? Maybe because we put them in situations where the truth can have negative consequences (ie: after doing something bad)? Or is it because the older they get, the more they realize that the world is full of lies? While we might tell kids to their faces "Lying is bad, you shouldn't lie", the culture they grow up in teaches them the exact opposite: That lying is a way of life.

Similarly, we officially teach everyone that rape is bad and we shouldn't do it. We're doing a decent job of it, as rape numbers are down, but why not consider why rapists rape at all? No one is born a rapist, just as no one is born a liar. One altogether reasonable suggestion is that culture tells men that they have sex coming to them, that they are owed it. Men who take this to heart get all kinds of fucked up when they aren't getting any and can't understand why. A man isn't a man unless he's got a place to park his dick, right? A lot of the time this is where feminists are coming from when they get annoyed at suggestions being made to women about how to react to rape. They see that as energy that should be going into preventing the idea that men are owed sex just for being men and thereby reducing rape altogether. They think that telling girls to take self-defense courses is akin to saying "boys gonna be boys, you prolly gonna get raped, better learn to deal with it". Again, I don't think it's a bad idea for girls to learn self defense (or boys, for that matter, as anybody might be put in a situation where it could come in handy), just as it's not a bad idea to buy a bike lock even though people shouldn't be trying to steal your bike. I'm just trying to give you a little perspective here.

Heck, maybe our banned lonely virgin friend wouldn't have considered suicide if he didn't feel he was doing something wrong by being an antisocial virgin. Maybe that MRA guy who just shot a bunch of people wouldn't have done so if he didn't feel he was being deprived of what he deserved. We can argue 'till we're blue in the face about whether terms like "rape culture" have merit, but we have flesh and blood examples of the negative consequences of teaching men that they have earned sex by being male and that they are failures if they don't get it.

This has been your daily voice of reason.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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Yeah, that guy was totally an activist for men's rights. You can tell because of all the men he hacked to death.
 

iannis

Musty Nester
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I'd disagree with that entirely, tbh.

Everyone is born a rapist. It -is- all nurture.

We are fallen creatures. What are you, a muslim? You think babies are INNOCENT? They're just babies man. You have to civilize those little shits before they can commit moral evils.
 

khalid

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Not sure if serious. The concept of original sin is bullshit and has no relevance to any serious discussion of morality.
 

Famm

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It was an ANTI PUA forum...he hated PUA stuff because it was one more thing in his long list of shit that failed to get him laid.
 

Tanoomba

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A psychopath frequenting PUA related forums that then goes on to kill 4 men and himself is not a MRA.
Huffington Post_sl said:
Rodger also subscribed to several YouTube channels on how to be a 'pick up artist,' including The Player Supreme Show and RSDfreetour as well as multiple MRA channels.
He may not have had an MRA membership card, but he was certainly a fan. Stop being so fucking defensive.
 

iannis

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Not sure if serious. The concept of original sin is bullshit and has no relevance to any serious discussion of morality.
It's not even the doctrine of original sin, it's just a simple examination of natural rights. A child is only potential. You shouldn't ignore facets because they don't serve an argument.

It's all a social construct man. No one gets to dabble in empirical nihilism. They're either balls deep or they're confused.

"No child is born a rapist" is an objectively false statement.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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You went on and on yesterday about guilt by association, that just because some feminist somewhere says all men should be castrated doesn't mean that's part of the movement, and then you yourself choose to use guilt by association in your posts and THEN get passive aggressive when called on it.

I'm convinced. You are indeed a woman.