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Sebudai

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People lie because people are self-interested and the benefits of lying often outweigh the costs. It's as simple as that.

One altogether reasonable suggestion is that culture tells men that they have sex coming to them, that they are owed it. Men who take this to heart get all kinds of fucked up when they aren't getting any and can't understand why. A man isn't a man unless he's got a place to park his dick, right? A lot of the time this is where feminists are coming from when they get annoyed at suggestions being made to women about how to react to rape. They see that as energy that should be going into preventing the idea that men are owed sex just for being men and thereby reducing rape altogether. They think that telling girls to take self-defense courses is akin to saying "boys gonna be boys, you prolly gonna get raped, better learn to deal with it". Again, I don't think it's a bad idea for girls to learn self defense (or boys, for that matter, as anybody might be put in a situation where it could come in handy), just as it's not a bad idea to buy a bike lock even though people shouldn't be trying to steal your bike. I'm just trying to give you a little perspective here.
I don't know what kind of culture you grew up in, but mine in no way taught me that I was "owed" sex. And keep in mind I come from a culture that imbues men with magic powers and teaches them that they'll get to be literalgodswith multiple wives in the afterlife, so uhhhh, where did you grow up exactly? Outside of maybe some areas in the middle east, this "culture" you're referring to is a fabrication. Do you honestly think there's some sort of significant community of virgin males that go around raping women so that they can finally consider themselves "men"?

The idea that we can reduce the preponderance of rape if we just stressed that it was wrong more often to men is completely naive and ignores the nature of reality. While on the flip side, if rape attempts became more dangerous for rapists, that actually would have a significant impact. The feminist movement has its head in the clouds with these concepts of culture. It's completely out of control.
 

iannis

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Yeah, if the mormon wasn't taught that it is the womans duty to please HIS booty I dunno what sort of backwoods muslim africa-hole you've gotta go to in order to support the idea.

Lets stick to talking about white people.
 

iannis

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Unless... wait... are feminists really saying that American Inventors must hang?

I'm pretty close to a come to jesus moment.
 

JVIRUS

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Yep...you're not a manly man unless you're getting the ole cock n balls worked over. Better go rape. Shit, a man's a chump if he's poor, too, better just steal anything that isn't nailed down cuz I need some cash. It's just culture 101 man, sorry if you're on the receiving end. You are a disturbingly presumptuous weirdo, man, keep your 'culture' to yourself please.


What's wrong with this person's opinion about wanting women to be taught self defense?

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Oh, is this the problem?

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That they're the same person?

The ole 'no true feminist' lecture, eh?

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Agreed. Women shouldn't learn to protect themselves. Only an uneducated and self disrespecting person would think that.

For example banks have no real NEED to maintain layers of defense mechanisms, their walls and cameras and armed security donothingto help solve our nation's obsession with theft culture.



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Also I would like to bring attention to the growing Forum Rape Culture on Rerolled. WHY are people tolerating it? WHY do we let people rape our threads?

Tanoomba rapes threads.
He's a thread rapist.
Stop it.
 

Sebudai

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We can solve the problem of rape by stressing to men that it's not okay to rape, just like Mississippi solved its teen pregnancy problem by stressing to kids that it's not okay to have premarital sex.
 

Loser Araysar

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"Not happy w/ Miss Nevada's answer that to stop rape we should teach women to defend themselves?Why don't we teach men to not rape?"

Yeah, feminists. The problem is that we're failing to teach men to not rape.

Jesus fucking Christ.
hahaha

woman logic.
 

Tanoomba

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The idea that we can reduce the preponderance of rape if we just stressed that it was wrong more often to men is completely naive and ignores the nature of reality.
True. But that doesn't mean trying to identify the causes of rape and using that knowledge to reduce rape is pointless.

While on the flip side, if rape attempts became more dangerous for rapists, that actually would have a significant impact.
Agreed.
 

Loser Araysar

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I was gonna stay silent because I actually agree that this backlash against Miss Nevada's response is pretty ridiculous.
However, you bring up an interesting point.

Officially, we do teach kids not to lie. Inevitably, they grow up to be liars just like everyone else. Why is that? Could it be because we lie to them from a young age for a variety of reasons (protect them from harsh truths, maintain a pleasant illusion, etc)? Maybe because we put them in situations where the truth can have negative consequences (ie: after doing something bad)? Or is it because the older they get, the more they realize that the world is full of lies? While we might tell kids to their faces "Lying is bad, you shouldn't lie", the culture they grow up in teaches them the exact opposite: That lying is a way of life.

Similarly, we officially teach everyone that rape is bad and we shouldn't do it. We're doing a decent job of it, as rape numbers are down, but why not consider why rapists rape at all? No one is born a rapist, just as no one is born a liar. One altogether reasonable suggestion is that culture tells men that they have sex coming to them, that they are owed it. Men who take this to heart get all kinds of fucked up when they aren't getting any and can't understand why. A man isn't a man unless he's got a place to park his dick, right? A lot of the time this is where feminists are coming from when they get annoyed at suggestions being made to women about how to react to rape. They see that as energy that should be going into preventing the idea that men are owed sex just for being men and thereby reducing rape altogether. They think that telling girls to take self-defense courses is akin to saying "boys gonna be boys, you prolly gonna get raped, better learn to deal with it". Again, I don't think it's a bad idea for girls to learn self defense (or boys, for that matter, as anybody might be put in a situation where it could come in handy), just as it's not a bad idea to buy a bike lock even though people shouldn't be trying to steal your bike. I'm just trying to give you a little perspective here.

Heck, maybe our banned lonely virgin friend wouldn't have considered suicide if he didn't feel he was doing something wrong by being an antisocial virgin. Maybe that MRA guy who just shot a bunch of people wouldn't have done so if he didn't feel he was being deprived of what he deserved. We can argue 'till we're blue in the face about whether terms like "rape culture" have merit, but we have flesh and blood examples of the negative consequences of teaching men that they have earned sex by being male and that they are failures if they don't get it.

This has been your daily voice of reason.
Culture never told me that I am owed sex. Where the fuck is this dumb shit even coming from? More make-believe problems from feminists.
 

Tanoomba

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I think I see the problem here. If you guys don't or can't understand something, it must be wrong.
 

iannis

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I'd love to see the feminist machine turn their attention to the problems of sex slavery and the ethics of American prostitution/sex work.

Something that they might actually be able to influence and a place where they may actually be able to make a generational contribution to society.

Or they can just keep being whiny cunts, I guess. Either/or.
 

Cad

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I was gonna stay silent because I actually agree that this backlash against Miss Nevada's response is pretty ridiculous.
However, you bring up an interesting point.

Officially, we do teach kids not to lie. Inevitably, they grow up to be liars just like everyone else. Why is that? Could it be because we lie to them from a young age for a variety of reasons (protect them from harsh truths, maintain a pleasant illusion, etc)? Maybe because we put them in situations where the truth can have negative consequences (ie: after doing something bad)? Or is it because the older they get, the more they realize that the world is full of lies? While we might tell kids to their faces "Lying is bad, you shouldn't lie", the culture they grow up in teaches them the exact opposite: That lying is a way of life.

Similarly, we officially teach everyone that rape is bad and we shouldn't do it. We're doing a decent job of it, as rape numbers are down, but why not consider why rapists rape at all? No one is born a rapist, just as no one is born a liar. One altogether reasonable suggestion is that culture tells men that they have sex coming to them, that they are owed it. Men who take this to heart get all kinds of fucked up when they aren't getting any and can't understand why. A man isn't a man unless he's got a place to park his dick, right? A lot of the time this is where feminists are coming from when they get annoyed at suggestions being made to women about how to react to rape. They see that as energy that should be going into preventing the idea that men are owed sex just for being men and thereby reducing rape altogether. They think that telling girls to take self-defense courses is akin to saying "boys gonna be boys, you prolly gonna get raped, better learn to deal with it". Again, I don't think it's a bad idea for girls to learn self defense (or boys, for that matter, as anybody might be put in a situation where it could come in handy), just as it's not a bad idea to buy a bike lock even though people shouldn't be trying to steal your bike. I'm just trying to give you a little perspective here.

Heck, maybe our banned lonely virgin friend wouldn't have considered suicide if he didn't feel he was doing something wrong by being an antisocial virgin. Maybe that MRA guy who just shot a bunch of people wouldn't have done so if he didn't feel he was being deprived of what he deserved. We can argue 'till we're blue in the face about whether terms like "rape culture" have merit, but we have flesh and blood examples of the negative consequences of teaching men that they have earned sex by being male and that they are failures if they don't get it.

This has been your daily voice of reason.
Jesus christ you are a gigantic faggot. Did you actually have a dick in your mouth the entire time you were typing this?
 

JVIRUS

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Yes...if ideas are intellectually disingenuous yet being proposed seriouslythey might be hard for people to understand.
 

Sebudai

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I think I see the problem here. If you guys don't or can't understand something, it must be wrong.
If you make an assertion without any accompanying evidence, I only have my own experiences to draw upon when analyzing the merits of your assertion. This has been my underlying criticism of the modern feminist movement throughout this entire thread. You've invented these concepts of rape culture (or some sort of culture that teaches men that they're "owed" sex) entirely out of thin air, as far as anyone can tell. And then you use these entirely made-up concepts so liberally that they become meaningless. Any slight against any woman anywhere is now magically patriarchy or rape culture or male privilege just by saying so.
 

Caeden

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What's wrong with this person's opinion about wanting women to be taught self defense?
Not a goddamn thing is wrong with it. This has got to be as dumb a controversy as a contest based on physical beauty yielding any sort of meaningful social commentary. This thread still fucking sucks.

Edit: I was raised more or less by my grandparents. You know what my "talk" consisted of? No means no. I was raised in the south where we're supposedly all backward, barefoot rapists. You know what this so called rape culture really is? Lack of fucking parenting and pure stupidity culture. I'm currently dating a wonderful woman. Do I expect sex? Probably. Even nightly at times. Do I feel I'm owed it? Nope. If she says no, I deal with it without raping everyone around. Usually this involves some degree of going to sleep, but I don't know...my girl is republican, quite the cutie, and in general initiates sex herself.

MRAs are pussies. Feminists (the current incarnation...not the ones going for suffrage, etc.) are fucking annoying. And the red pills will never stick their penis in a woman actually worth spit.
 

Loser Araysar

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Why isn't there a rape FPS game?

We have hundreds of games where the point is nothing but to kill hundreds upon hundreds of people with a variety of weapons. Or blow up cars, or rob banks, Or participate in just about every kind of anti social or criminal behavior, including terrorism.

But we don't have a single game where we can rape someone even though the video game industry is 99.9999% male.

You know why?

Rape culture.
 

Lejina

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I think I see the problem here. If you guys don't or can't understand something, it must be wrong.
Explain to us then. I sure as hell was never told I was owed sex and apparently I'm not alone who missed the memo.

Once you're done with that, go ahead and tell us what this so called patriarchy entails, we're on page 106 and you still havn't figured out how to answer that question yet, apparently you have no idea what it is either.

I've got the feeling you're just going to throw your arms in the air for the umpteenth time, say this is all just so obvious, roll your eyes and change the subject because you have no idea how to word logically your gut feeling.
 

Sebudai

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It must burn some feminists up that a woman who is that physically attractive is also intellectually superior to them.
 

Cad

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It must burn some feminists up that a woman who is that physically attractive is also intellectually superior to them.
No the "whore-dar" is operating. She's just a whore. And therefore not a real woman.