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Loser Araysar

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That's the problem. You keep making this personal.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm a erudite white woman who's been steeped in academia for the past 14 years, and probably will be for the rest of my life. I totally understand my privilege and the whole coastal, liberal, northeastern academic culture where it comes from.

I just also think that society would progress to a better place faster if other people had less hurdles and biases to overcome just to get to the point where they can start contributing to society. That's the entire point of my argument from the start.
The best part of course is that "white privilege" slur will never go away until there are no whites in position of power and white themselves are a minority. At which point they will need to figure out a new scapegoat because it isn't whites keeping them down in 2014. Its these people themselves sucking at life.
 

mkopec

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^^It wont be long, bro.

What do we have to do to get there? Like Araysar said, do we have to acknowledge this and finally, miraculously, the minority will start to raise himself up from the bowels of oppression and economic slums?

Ok I acknowledged it, Im white and privileged as a mo-fo. Now what?
 

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If it was as simple as you seem to think it is, it wouldn't be a problem.

1) Be Black
2) Apply for a Mortgage
3) Arrive at an understanding of what institutional racism actually is

1) Submit a resume
2) Be named Shanique
3) Don't get hired

I'm not claiming that this does not happen. I'm claiming the opposite, this does happen. This much we can agree on.

What we disagree on is where it starts to get hard. Where it starts to become work. This has been explained ad-nauseum. Lithose, Cad, and some others have spent a lot of electricity in doing it well, and the rest of us more electricty in doing it poorly. The end result, unfortunately, is not "white people be power-trippin, yo". These posters are not bastions of socially conservative idealism. I have no doubt that if they WERE able to lay it at the feet of vestigal bigotry they would do so.

We all wish it was as easy as you and Tanoomba want it to be. I do understand what you're saying, Mist. Honestly, I do. A child could understand it.

You want homogenization? You want that expression of freedom? Go get a corporate job.

Dat glass ceiling. It is made of irony.
This week, we didn't hired a white guy who graduated from the University of moscow, applied math, mid 80s. The reason he was too smart. That white privilege backfired on him.
 

Loser Araysar

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This week, we didn't hired a white guy who graduated from the University of moscow, applied math, mid 80s. The reason he was too smart. That white privilege backfired on him.
3 weeks ago we hired a black woman from Western Africa for a senior management position. She beat out a bunch of white people, including white guys.

That white male privilege sure came in handy for those guys
 

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This week, we didn't hired a white guy who graduated from the University of moscow, applied math, mid 80s. The reason he was too smart. That white privilege backfired on him.
Pinko's ain't got no privilege!

Why was he too smart? I've always thought "too smart", "too experienced", and "too qualified" were bullshit.
 

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On a side note. That guy was crazy smart. Those commies school programs of the 80s and 70s were really fucking good. Applied math.. yeah that guy was stupid smart.

We didn't hired him, because we had no work for him, ( software developer) different platforms. But yes honestly it had nothing to do with him been too smart. Just a mismatch of developing skills.
 

Siddar

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If you're a american you're a privileged motherfucker and you look stupid talking about it on the internet.
 

mkopec

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We hired like 10 women engineers in our office in the past year. Out of stacks and stacks of resumes of white privileged guys, some even having PhDs in engineering and math. Some of these women have nice asses too! But they could not engineer their way out of a paper bag.
 

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These social science morons try to "read" patterns in society so they can tell the rest of us what's happening. Don't let them get away with this horseshit. They might as well be rolling chicken bones they took out of a leather pouch.
 

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As a side note, We would hire a female candidate faster than a male and even put up with less than stellar performance. Provided she is at least a seven.
 

Loser Araysar

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Pinko's ain't got no privilege!

Why was he too smart? I've always thought "too smart", "too experienced", and "too qualified" were bullshit.
It's not bullshit, its definitely real. And the demographic that takes the disproportionate brunt of that is white males.

Dat White Male Privilege.
 

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It's not bullshit, its definitely real. And the demographic that takes the disproportionate brunt of that is white males.

Dat White Male Privilege.
Basically they won't hire you because they're afraid you'll either quit or get promoted to be their boss within a year. Who hires their replacement?

Dat Black Privilege, they won't hire you because they're afraid you're lazy and can't do the work.

Who in the fuck ever told you people that life is fair.
 

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Your argument is basically this:

I understand that institutional racism exists.

I understand that white men have a slightly easier time achieving any given goal (aside from playing in the NBA/NFL) than everyone.

But because I'm a white male, I don't think that society should take any steps to offset this. And anyone else that disagrees with me is just wrong.
That's because the racism isn't actually about their skin color, their skin color just serves as a convenient indicator that this person is part of a higher risk group. Black people are more likely to have shitty finances which makes them higher risk for mortgages.

Complaining about this is like a 21 year old complaining about his car insurance rates. Yeah, it's not really fair that his age is used to lump him into a higher risk category even if he is a safe driver, but forcing the insurance company to give the same rates to all ages would be a disaster.
 

Tanoomba

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These social science morons try to "read" patterns in society so they can tell the rest of us what's happening. Don't let them get away with this horseshit. They might as well be rolling chicken bones they took out of a leather pouch.
Yup, because we all know there are no patterns in society.
 

Loser Araysar

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Basically they won't hire you because they're afraid you'll either quit or get promoted to be their boss within a year. Who hires their replacement?

Dat Black Privilege, they won't hire you because they're afraid you're lazy and can't do the work.

Who in the fuck ever told you people that life is fair.
The quitting component was definitely the primary concern. With a lot of these over qualified applicants you could see that they were just looking for something to pay the bills while they kept looking for a better job. I had zero desire to do these interviews again 4 months later for the same position and having to spend time again training a new hire.

But you know, thats why white males succeed so easily, because they all look out for each other in these kind of ways
 

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On the last page, we are arguing against a concept of discrimination, by discriminating, albeit not by skin color. Good job Bolshevik-bro
 

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Adolf Hitler_sl said:
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. [He] had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.


Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
Old Adolf had tanoomba nailed.
 

Soygen

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I think quoting Hitler signals it's time to Rickshaw this.

I don't normally have an opinion of Tanoomba, but him saying Kurt Vonnegut didn't understand sarcasm was the funniest thing I read in a long time.