Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

Bisi, I'm going to need you to stop posting pictures of women with regular genitals.

You have over 150 tucobux now, you need to start considering how your posts make those of us without huge buttholes feel.

No more normal butthole shaming.

I'd like to know more, but that is pretty fucked up.

Mist_sl said:

CTO Megan Smith explains how women in tech are erased from history - Boing Boing

iPatriarchy.

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I think that is probably a fair criticism to some extent, but overall it probably has more to do with dominant personalities being the more perceptible ones in the public eye and therefore the 'characters' most attractive to write into a historical script. So if you have, say, Margaret Thatcher or Eleanor Roosevelt missing from 1980s cold war or WWII presidency character dramas, then there's a serious problem.

Learning how to fit 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag is a thing that every engineer should know how to do, and also critical for any worthwhile study of genders.

Since this is going to be a thing--lets get this started. If you hold a girl down while she is crying? And she doesn't say no? It's still rape. Any reasonable person would assume in that situation she was uncomfortable and not desiring the contact; and she should be asked to consent at that point. Which is the important distinguishing feature in ALL rape questions, because humans communicate non-verbally. What would a reasonable person assume. Since crying is a huge non-verbal indicator of discomfort, sadness or just general unpleasantness? It stands to figure most reasonable men would stop and ask.

Meanwhile, if a girl forcefully pulls a guys cock out, strokes it, while shoving her own panties aside but does not say yes? It is not rape. Despite the fact that she didn't say yes.

Believing She was "raped" does not make you believe in "yes means yes". That isretarded.

Mist_sl said:

And how should the police proceed in this matter? Swab for tear stains? Ask the walls if she was crying? There's no collectible evidence of rape, that means it's not a rape according to this thread!

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Oh, so now we're talking about proof as a third party who did not witness the event? And not just "was it rape"? (Because those are different things, Mist) Well then, that becomes more complex. I don't know the answer to that one, because I'm not omniscient and can't flip on a TV and actually rewind the world to peek on everyone's sexual experience. No one in the thread said what was on TV might not be rape, no one. What we said is there was no reason to default to one side's view of what happened.

You're confusing us not defaulting to the woman's position, and believing her word as absolute, with believing a rape we can witness isn't a real one. It's a massive false equivalence, and the only thing that makes it funny is you thought it was a "gotcha" because you so poorly grasped every argument in this thread.

But lets go over. Since I got to watch it--I can say, from a reasonable perspective of our modern society, it was rape. If I, however, was anormal human investigator--and twounknownpeople walked up to me, and the female said she was raped, and the male said she consented? Iwouldn't automatically believe the female just because she has a vagina(Though I would treat her like a victim for everything apart from criminal justice). I would investigate, the man AND woman's character, witnesses that night, and a host of other things. But we'd be in luck in this case? Because LITERALLY someone witnessed it, which would be a fine thing in a rape trial, and then if a witness admitted she was raped? I'd cut Ramsay's balls off.

Do you get that, Mist? That is the difference. One is about actually defining rape--which crying women who need to be held down? Pretty easy to define that as rape for me. The other is PROOF in the eyes of a fair justice system. These are not the same things, and trying to intimate they are? As said, is a false equivalence.

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Okay, what if you were in a court of law with a tape of the event given to you via ravens. Could you reasonably convict Ramsay of rape? WOULD YOU SEND HIM TOTHE WALL?

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Dude, Mist if I had a tape of something like that? Yes, rape, easily rape. That's never been in question for me. I mean, there might be some extenuating circumstances in some cases with crying, held down women--like if there is some kinky rape RP going on; but if you're into that shit you actually better have some kind of contract with the woman first. But yeah, if that was a video and she claimed she was raped? For me that would be open and shut as rape. Married or not.

He'd either get the Wall or the Knife. Twig and Berries though.