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Lithose

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Would the law protect Sansa here given all of the evidence? I don't believe it would.
Mist, when men used to be lynched for rape, do you think it was a crowd of women who did it? Like did a bunch of women get enraged, go find the guy and string him up? LOL...No, typically when men hear of someone being raped they get enraged, it's reviled and some of the most famous cases of vigilantism have been about rape, that's how passionate many people are about it. Do you even realize how sympathetic a jury is to a hurt woman? There are reasons why women have vastly reduced sentences for the same crime. If there was video evidence of this you are absolutely fucking delusional to believe any jury in the U.S. wouldn't send Ramsay off to be corn holed in prison. You literally have such a distorted view of society that it's ALMOST mind boggling. You've conflated LACK OF EVIDENCE with people NOT caring. They are not the same thing.
 

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Mist, when men used to be lynched for rape, do you think it was a crowd of women who did it? Like did a bunch of women get enraged, go find the guy and string him up? LOL...No, typically when men hear of someone being raped they get enraged, it's reviled and some of the most famous cases of vigilantism have been about rape, that's how passionate many people are about it. Do you even realize how sympathetic a jury is to a hurt woman? There are reasons why women have vastly reduced sentences for the same crime. If there was video evidence of this you are absolutely fucking delusional to believe any jury in the U.S. wouldn't send Ramsay off to be corn holed in prison. You literally have such a distorted view of society that it's ALMOST mind boggling. You've conflated LACK OF EVIDENCE with people NOT caring. They are not the same thing.
No Lithose, society hates women. Your narrative is off. Since this doesn't support the 70 cents on the dollar society hates women narrative, it'll be like NUH UH THAT DIDNT HAPPEN WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN DONT REPORT RAPES hurr durr
 

Mist

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Mist, when men used to be lynched for rape, do you think it was a crowd of women who did it? Like did a bunch of women get enraged, go find the guy and string him up? LOL...No, typically when men hear of someone being raped they get enraged, it's reviled and some of the most famous cases of vigilantism have been about rape, that's how passionate many people are about it. Do you even realize how sympathetic a jury is to a hurt woman? There are reasons why women have vastly reduced sentences for the same crime. If there was video evidence of this you are absolutely fucking delusional to believe any jury in the U.S. wouldn't send Ramsay off to be corn holed in prison. You literally have such a distorted view of society that it's ALMOST mind boggling. You've conflated LACK OF EVIDENCE with people NOT caring. They are not the same thing.
Back when men were lynched for rape, wives were considered property and marital rape wasn't a crime. DOES NOT APPLY HERE.
 

Asshat wormie

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Imagine every woman is Mist. Then the society would hate all women. From her view of the world, the narrative works.
 

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Back when men were lynched for rape, wives were considered property and marital rape wasn't a crime. DOES NOT APPLY HERE.
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Mist

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What I've gotten out of all of these conversations is that you guys think there's a level of victimization of women that just needs to be accepted as to not sully the sanctity of our legal system.

And that level of victimization is pretty damn high.

You guys think the system works, I don't think it does, and we're not going to agree.
 

Skanda

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What I've gotten out of all of these conversations is that you guys think there's a level of victimization of women that just needs to be accepted as to not sully the sanctity of our legal system.

And that level of victimization is pretty damn high.

You guys think the system works, I don't think it does, and we're not going to agree.
And here we go again with the 'Every man is a rapist if someone with a vagina so much as snears at him' Mist idea of rape proof.
 

Adebisi

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What I've gotten out of these conversations is that mist wants all accusations of rape to be insta-convictions. Evidence is for morons. This would've worked out great for Rolling Stone writers.
 

Mist

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What I said was not a straw man. That is an honest summary. I'm not even saying whether it's the right or wrong approach, just that I don't agree with it.
 

Lithose

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What I've gotten out of all of these conversations is that you guys think there's a level of victimization of women that just needs to be accepted as to not sully the sanctity of our legal system.

And that level of victimization is pretty damn high.

You guys think the system works, I don't think it does, and we're not going to agree.
There is a certain amount of victimization everyone needs to accept (Or take personal responsibility to avoid) to maintain a decent check against oppression, yes. I'm sure we'd all be safer if police put booths on every street that forced people to stop and show papers. But is it worth the trade off?

The same arguments I use against people who would willing cede most of their privacy for some protection against a new 9/11 would be one I use here. The state is a behemoth that crushes things, giving unchecked power to individuals to use it with only their word? Isidiotic. We've literally seen how that works out in history. And guess what? In the end? It NEVER works to help with the original problem, because eventually enough people get caught and victimized by the panic, that there is a back lash against even real victims. If you think there is some scrutiny over rape claims now? Wait until 10 years of a "preponderance of evidence' circus goes by--I mean fuck we are already seeing a huge back lash after 5 years of that JUST in Title 9 cases. Eventually accusations of rape will be treated with disdain and prejudice, not just cold transparency/scrutiny.

Also, the system could use a lot of improvements. You, or anyone, just haven't offered one that doesn't kill the patient. Bad analogy time. You're like someone who wants to pour bleach down a Cancer patient's throat saying "This WILL kill the cancer, if you're against me administering bleach...you areFORcancer!"
 

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What I've gotten out of these conversations is that Mist is mad that all criminals aren't convicted 100% of the time and she thinks everyone who recognizes that we live in the real world and this could never be achieved is a rape apologist, and likely a rapist themselves.
 

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There is a certain amount of victimization everyone needs to accept (Or take personal responsibility to avoid) to maintain a decent check against oppression, yes. I'm sure we'd all be safer if police put booths on every street that forced people to stop and show papers. But is it worth the trade off?

The same arguments I use against people who would willing cede most of their privacy for some protection against a new 9/11 would be one I use here. The state is a behemoth that crushes things, giving unchecked power to individuals to use it with only their word? Isidiotic. We've literally seen how that works out in history. And guess what? In the end? It NEVER works to help with the original problem, because eventually enough people get caught and victimized by the panic, that there is a back lash against even real victims. If you think there is some scrutiny over rape claims now? Wait until 10 years of a "preponderance of evidence' circus goes by--I mean fuck we are already seeing a huge back lash after 5 years of that JUST in Title 9 cases. Eventually accusations of rape will be treated with disdain and prejudice, not just cold transparency/scrutiny.

Also, the system could use a lot of improvements. You, or anyone, just haven't offered one that doesn't kill the patient. Bad analogy time. You're like someone who wants to pour bleach down someone whose suffering from cancer's throat saying "This WILL kill the cancer, if you're against me administering bleach...you are FOR cancer!"
She's just going to accuse you of straw manning you while massively misstating our position and ignoring the direct questions. Watch.
 

Mist

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What I've gotten out of these conversations is that Mist is mad that all criminals aren't convicted 100% of the time and she thinks everyone who recognizes that we live in the real world and this could never be achieved is a rape apologist, and likely a rapist themselves.
In this case it's me being mad that the law isn't even set up to label many of these things crimes. And that victims are still actively discouraged to report crimes.
 

khalid

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You've conflated LACK OF EVIDENCE with people NOT caring. They are not the same thing.
Yep, just like she conflates rape with enough burden of proof met to prosecute something as rape. She just wants to muddy the waters and proclaim everyone else is rape apologists. That is all she wants to do and will bend anything to that goal.