Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

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Tanoomba

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Now can I go to the police and say since I was drunk I couldn't give consent, and he should be charge with property damage?
Of course you can, especially if he took advantage of the drunkenness he was well aware of to get that consent from you. It's gotten people out of written contracts, you don't think it could get someone out of "I agreed to let him smash my car"?
Maybe your point is that you wouldn't charge him because he's your buddy, or that you would grit your teeth and take the blame for your stupid decision-making. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere on how much somebody can be taken advantage of legally (see: Contracts) before it's considered a crime. Seems to me like decisions about someone's body which can directly and immediately affect their health should not be decisions that we consider "OK" for other people to take advantage of, even if they did trust that person enough to spend time with them in an inebriated state.
 

Mist

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I'm tired of these abstracts.

Grand jury says no charges warranted in controversial uptown public sex incidentGrand jury says no charges warranted in controversial uptown public sex incident

Everyone remember this case? Two drunk college kids from the University of Ohio are outside a bar and the man is performing oral sex on the woman. We've got multiple videos of the event.



And the dude has to through a fucking Grand Jury to see if there are going to be any charges filed. What does the local Fem group think?



Can't make this shit up.
That case was absurd. Just because it actually happened doesn't mean it's not argumentum ad absurdum.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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I ABSOLUTELY HATE RELIGION AND ALL THE DOGMA ASSOCIATED WITH IT and yet this stupid argument is now forcing me to take their position of "maybe there's too much casual/premarital sex going on." I FUCKING HATE THAT.
No, there is too much drinking and partying going on. Faggot.
 

Jais

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So where'd we land on things? Is being drunk a get out of jail free card now or does a woman's feelings still hold claim to that card?
 

rhinohelix

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I'm a firm believer in the Hegelian dialectic model of thesis-antithesis-synthesis. I'm providing the antithesis to the thesis presented here. I know all my points are wrong, as are all of your (your used collectively here) points. The truth exists somewhere in the middle.
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Mist

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No, there is too much drinking and partying going on. Faggot.
That too. There's way too much binge drinking going on among young adults and it's far too socially accepted.

And for the sheer amount of socially accepted binge drinking and casual sex going on, the continued downslope of incidents of rape (no thanks to the psychopaths in this thread) are something to be applauded, not be decried as an 'epidemic' by feminists uninformed by statistics.

The epidemic is the binge drinking on and around campuses. The rapes are a direct and predictable consequence of that.
 

Sebudai

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If I stand up a little too quickly and get a little light-headed for a few seconds, am I able to consent?
 

Mist

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If you rape a girl and it turns out she liked it does it still count?
If she doesn't press charges it really can't be a rape.

I think this is the lesson we should all take from this thread. When you rape a girl, you should make it such an amazing experience that she comes back for seconds.

(HINT: This was a sarcastic post.)
 

Gavinmad

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If she doesn't press charges it really can't be a rape.

I think this is the lesson we should all take from this thread. When you rape a girl, you should make it such an amazing experience that she comes back for seconds.

(HINT: This was a sarcastic post.)
It's hard to tell when your serious arguments sound just as retarded as your jokes.
 

Mist

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It's hard to tell when your serious arguments sound just as retarded as your jokes.
Have you added a single idea of merit to this thread besides attacking me without actually providing any counterexamples to my points?
 

Gavinmad

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Have you added a single idea of merit to this thread besides attacking me without actually providing any counterexamples to my points?
Most of your points are irrational nonsense, which is hard to provide a counterexample to. You also shift the goalposts more than Merlin does.
 

Mist

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Holy shit at that disclaimer at the top. Anyone who uses cisgender seriously outside of a gender studies class or tranny book club meeting is literally a joke.

But there's a decent point in there. Those PUA forums are seriously fucked up shit. I thought it was all just a harmless fantasy for a long time, akin to those stupid romance novels women read, but upon reading them in the wake of this psychodweeb's rampage, I think they're something else entirely.

As I said above, I think that the overwhelming majority of men are disinclined to commit, and actively condemn, rape, because normal human behavior is to engage in prosocial behavior towards other humans and abhor antisocial behavior towards other humans. But these PUA forums are actually a way for sociopathic alpha males, or invented sociopathic alpha male internet personas, to convince otherwise normal beta males into believing that woman are less-than-human, therefore opening the door for these beta males to commit rape against what they see as now less-than-human targets. They're a vector for sociopathy in the same way every aggressive military campaign in the history of man begins by dehumanizing the enemy through propaganda.