Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

Tanoomba_sl said:

Core issue? Nobody here wants to talk about the core issue and you know it. Don't pretend that I'm swaying the discussion with stuff that doesn't matter. Therewas no discussionbefore I decided to push the "defensive douchebag" button and whip you goons up into a frenzy. Obviously, you guys love it too or you wouldn't keep posting here. I provide you with windmills to swing your swords at, you provide me with an opportunity to school several internet alpha males with one blow. it's mutually beneficial.

If you're telling me you'd rather have a rational discussion about why rapes occur at all, whether they get too much attention relative to their impact on society, what can be done to reduce inclination towards rape, etc, then awesome. I'm there, bro. But we can't have a rational discussion when everyone's too busy trying to bust open the Tanoomba pinata by beating it with strands of cooked pasta. Once we get over everyone's ferocious aversion to uncomfortable truths, the healing can begin.

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Junk statistics from advocacy groups are slung around and become common knowledge, such as the incredible factoid that one in four university students has been raped. (The claim was based on a commodious definition of rape that the alleged victims themselves never accepted; it included, for example, any incident in which a woman consented to sex after having had too much to drink and regretted it afterward.)

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The National Crime Victimization Survey, which uses a narrower definitions, found that only 0.5% of women and 0.06% of men, age 12 or older, were victims of rape or sexual assault in 1995. (The NCVS groups together rape and sexual assault.) By 2010, these numbers had decreased to 0.2% of women and 0.01% of men.

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A 1997 report by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, which defines rape as forced penetration by the offender, found that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and that nearly 99% of rapists are male. However, when prison rapes are included in the statistics it has been reported that, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, "...more men are raped in the U.S. than women... In 2008, it was estimated 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time... compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison."

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Yes, taking sexual advantage of a person who can't say no is textbook rape

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Tanoomba_sl said:

The deciding factor is whether or not the other party knew about the first party's drunken state and took advantage of it to bring about a result that would not have occurred had that person been of sound mind.

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