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rhinohelix

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Hilarious.

Now that you have been so utterly demolished, do some more of that fag routine for us.
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Loser Araysar

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So next time I'm going drinking and I get behind the wheel of the car, I'm not responsible for my actions? Awesome.

Basically being drunk absolves me from responsibility for anything.

P.S. Raped a girl last night after work. She had 1 beer and enjoyed herself quite a bit.
 

rhinohelix

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I was in the middle of removing it from the forum and moving it to another host; I always forget the low limit on gif attachment. Bonus gif to your previous post for your trouble:

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Lithose

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But drunk people can't give consent, which iswhy contracts can be voided if someone was taking advantage of a drunk person.We don't say "The guy shouldn't have been drinking if he didn't want to be taken advantage of." He may have signed the contract, but that voluntary action doesn't count as consent because an external party was exploiting his suggestible and irrational state. Really, this whole conversation should have ended after our legal friend helpfully pointed out what contracts and sex have in common:
In the vast majority of cases, a drunk person CAN give consent for a contract. I'm not sure why you believe contracts get broken if one person was drunk; it can be a mitigating factor, but it's not an absolute. It's certainly not a low enough threshold where you can say "drunk people can't give consent"--as if it were an absolute statement.
 

Tanoomba

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1> Nobody said it did save his life, nor was the point of the trial whether his life would have ended then and there by any standard of proof. The question was, could he have reasonably believed his life was in danger? Which of course you willfully ignore, then go off with a bunch of bullshit tangents without addressing the actual issue.
One Mr. Hodj strongly implied that the gun saved Zim's life. Instead of just acknowledging that it probably didn't (which was my point), the entire board erupted into angry jeers claiming I was holding Zim responsible for what happened, that I was making him out to be the bad guy (even though I repeated SEVERAL TIMES that Zim was justified in his actions), that I was ignoring physical evidence, etc. You can tell me what "the question was" if you like, doesn't change the fact that I made a simple truthful statement that rustled enough jimmies to fill a barn.

2> "Being white" doesn't offer advantages. The perception of white people by everyone else offers us advantages. We didn't cause you or anyone else to have that perception. And the relevant question isn't "do people perceive white people that way." The relevant question is "now what?" Do we punish white people for people liking us? Do we put affirmative action in overdrive? Where do we go from here? But of course you don't care about that, you just want to chum the waters with your troll bait.
Once again, you're telling me what "the relevant question is". People didn't respond to my statement that being white comes with advantages with "Obviously, my good Tanoomba, the real question isnow what?" Instead, it was page after page of butthurt idiocy trying to tell me that my simple statement was wrong through irrelevant tangents and angry ranting. I agree with what you just said, and I certainly do care about what should be done, but all that exists separately from this board's hard-on for contradicting me for the sake of contradicting me.

3> Only if you twist the definition of rape does convincing a drunk girl to have sex with you become rape. Under the actual legal definition of rape (since rape is a crime, the legal definition applies), that is not rape under any but the most extreme circumstances. Once again, you ignore this though and just keep saying it as if its true.
I never twisted the definition of anything. Non-consentual sex is rape. Being taken advantage of when in a susceptible state does not count as giving consent, as we have seen with the contract example (thanks again).


Now, if you guys want to learn anything from this, it's that I know how to push your buttons. I will seek out opportunities to hold a mirror up to you and force you to acknowledge simple, yet uncomfortable truths. If you remember this the next time it happens, you can respond with "Yes, Tanoomba, technically you have a point, but what we'd really like to get at here is X..." instead of embarrassing yourselves saying stupid nonsensical shit just because you don't like me and are desperate to try to put me in my place, logic be damned.
 

Tanoomba

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Defending women and hating on men is Tanoombas schtick. Does it count as trolling if he (possibly she) .....(actually its Rerolled so it may have been one then the other, who fucking knows) actually believes what they are writing?
I'm not defending women here, nor am I hating on men. I don't even know how you could get that impression. For Christ's sake, a third of rapes are caused by women and you guys are choosing to ignore that because you'd rather believe those rapes don't count. Why are you defending women rapists? Why aren't you allowing men who have been raped to get justice?WHY DO YOU HATE MEN?
 

Chancellor Alkorin

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How -does- it feel to keep slamming your head against the proverbial wall, dude? I'm just curious.

Actually, did you get the wall's consent? Sounds like non-consensual wall slamming to me.
 

rhinohelix

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Do you realize how high the bar is set for this? The person has to prove they were essentially black out drunk. In the vast majority of cases, a drunk person CAN give consent for a contract. In fact, the threshold for consent is a lot like rape--you have to be drunk beyond competence to even have a chance to break your contractual obligations (Or become drunk involuntarily).

I'm not sure why you believe contracts get broken if one person was drunk. That's not how it works at all. Drunk people can most certainly give consent to form a contract.
It's not even that; Taroomba is taking the position that a single drink/any drinking whatsoever removes all agency.
 

Loser Araysar

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Tanoomba,

Can I be held responsible for driving drunk?
 

rhinohelix

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I'm not defending women here, nor am I hating on men. I don't even know how you could get that impression. For Christ's sake, a third of rapes are caused by women and you guys are choosing to ignore that because you'd rather believe those rapes don't count. Why are you defending women rapists? Why aren't you allowing men who have been raped to get justice?WHY DO YOU HATE MEN?
Because in overwhelming measure, they are only "rapes" by your bullshit standards.

It has yet to be disproved even once. It's been yelled at, sure. But disproved? Those are two different things, you know.
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Tanoomba

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Lithose we have been saying the same thing and its not working out.
Dude, I know you don't like to address me directly, but I really need to know...

Which is it:

a) Women commit a third of rapes, most of which involve taking advantage of a drunk man, therefore taking advantage of a drunk person for sex counts as rape.

b) Taking advantage of a drunk person for sex does not count as rape, therefore the "1/3 of rapes are committed by women" statistic is bullshit.



Choose wisely.
 

Tanoomba

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So next time I'm going drinking and I get behind the wheel of the car, I'm not responsible for my actions? Awesome.

Basically being drunk absolves me from responsibility for anything.

P.S. Raped a girl last night after work. She had 1 beer and enjoyed herself quite a bit.
All of that's been addressed several times over. Keep up or get out, your trolling isn't even amusing.
 

Loser Araysar

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I'm not going to read through 1200 posts and look for that turd nugget of your wisdom so why dont you just give me the quick highlights on why a drunk person cannot be held responsible for their actions when it comes to sex, but can totally be held responsible for their actions when it comes to driving a car.
 

Gavinmad

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Dude, I know you don't like to address me directly, but I really need to know...

Which is it:

a) Women commit a third of rapes, most of which involve taking advantage of a drunk man, therefore taking advantage of a drunk person for sex counts as rape.

b) Taking advantage of a drunk person for sex does not count as rape, therefore the "1/3 of rapes are committed by women" statistic is bullshit.



Choose wisely.
False dichotomy.