Sparko
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Most of the leases I've heard of always have a buyout option at the end of the lease.
Personally I would never lease unless I was getting a new car every year.
Buying a car?
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Personally I would never lease unless I was getting a new car every year.
Now add dealership markup to the tires, plus install. If you are at a BMW/Lexus/Merc dealership, labor rates are 150ish maybe more PER HOUR. At my Honda dealer labor rate is 110 an hour. Just because smart people know you can get them yourself (and cheaper) does not mean that is what happens.We can just stop right here
Yes. If you are planning on buying the car, you can do it pretty much any time. (I worked for a Honda/Pontiac/Mazda/Mitsu/Hyundai dealer and now just for a standalone Honda shop)
Cad
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Sanrith Descartes
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I gotta disagree with the no-feature 15k car thing. Times have changed. Work transferred my office from down the street to 30 miles away (one way). After a month of commuting with my Hemi Ram, I refused to eat the gas I was burning through. Swallowed my pride and got a Chevy Spark. 14k for the mid tier trim option with a stick. 10 airbags, onstar, 7 inch touch screen, power doors/windows, bluetooth with 5 device memory, phone/audio/cruise on the steering wheel, 4 doors, 6 speakers and gas (not hybrid) engine getting low 40's mileage. It is like driving a go cart that has a lawn mower engine. Less horsepower than my Harley is the main drawback. Can't beat the price and it has a ton of features standard.
I really don't like the Mini coupe, just looks ugly IMO. I love the regular ones though, will be picking up an 07+ Cooper S in a few weeks. I wouldn't even look at a non S model though.
Honestly, most cars, even low tier stuff, have all of the same upgrades and options that luxury cars have these days. It's purely for looks and status.
Moved to a new house which resides on bit of a hill in the past year. My little 2006 Civic just can't handle any form of snow and with what Maryland just got dumped with, I doubt even snow tires would have done the trick. Been looking at the 2013 Subaru Outback and hot damn they are nice and since they are styled differently in their last remodel, they look less of a station wagon.
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One big thing to consider with snow, beyond just RWD/FWD/AWD is road clearance. I've seen plenty of FWD/AWD cars that should do fine in the snow just get completely stuck because they don't have enough clearance to make it through 8-12" of snow. This is one of the reasons I hesitate to get anything besides an SUV where I live. We don't get a lot of snow(nothing like living in Minnesotta or Wisconsin) but we can get one or two snows a year that dumps a foot on us in a hurry.
Cutlery
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Yeah, I've been told even living here (MN) that 4x4 is not necessary for winter travel, it's not worth paying the for the 30k truck to drive in it. Except I work before the plows go out, and I end up having to go thru a lot of side streets and other areas with 6+ inches of snow. I don't care if you don't think you need 4wd, but you're not going through that shit in any kind of sedan.
Toss in the weekend before thanksgiving ice storm a few years ago where it came in early and caught the DOT with it's pants down, and the guys driving the plows couldn't even get into work. The roads sat with an inch of solid ice on them all night long, and the safest place to drive was with 2 wheels off the fucking road. It costs a lot more, but I've never had to call work and say "I can't make it in" like everyone else has at least once.
Tuco
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This is definitely true. The only times I've gotten stuck in my FWD sedans are when I don't have enough clearance and my car is just sitting on top a blanket of snow.
I've taken this into consideration as well. The 2013 Outback has a claimed ground clearance of 8.7" which is exactly why I have chosen the Outback over an Impreza or Legacy. Those sedans just wouldn't do after a quick obvservation.
Our stuff fits nicely, until my wife goes berserk shopping and suddenly the garage becomes like her storage closets just overflowing with stuff. I used to fight with her about cleaning them out. Now, I just throw out her old stuff and play dumb. Every single thing she hordes has 'sentimental' value.
It was a tight squeeze in there with my old Z71 Chevy Truck and our minivan. Not so much with my new Accord. If I had to do it over again, I definitely would have bought a house with a three car garage.
Tuco
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8.7" is quite a bit, should be pretty hard to ground it out under reasonable conditions.
Cutlery
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How you gonna fit that in the garage, bro?I just bought a 4x4 sequoia for my 3rd car.
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Ass talk right here. Maybe if you go to a east BFE privately owned dealership where your choices to shop are extremely limited. All of the chain dealerships WILL price match any tire shop to include WalMart, Discount, etc. for the tire sales and install to include road hazard that most shops give with the installation. All 120 dealerships of ours do this. Sonic, Penske, AutoNation, Asbury do the same as well. Jesus Christ do some research before you speak out of your ass.