Camelot Unchained MMO

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K13R

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I an going to start a kickstarter campain. I got 20 million in gold bars in saudi Arabia need 5 million in legal fees and taxes. Once paid I and gold received I well double your investment min to buy in is 1, 000 USD
 
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part of me wants the kickstarter to fail due to the unprofessionalism and lack of show(designdoc/tests/etc). if you have a name, you can make them swallow.
 

Azrayne

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Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical about putting any money towards anything until we've seen someone actually produce a game from kickstarter. Inevitably at least some of them are going to fail, and it's going to be amusing to watch what happens when people realize the $300 or whatever they blew hoping the extra awesome sequel to their favorite oldschool game is just vaporware. If you do put down money, best to just view it as a gift, with the money gone, and not expect anything in return.
 

Oldbased

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Obsidian Entertainment just backed CU. I think that means any shortfall of the kickstarter will be paid by them to ensure it continues development.
 

Denaut

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Obsidian Entertainment just backed CU. I think that means any shortfall of the kickstarter will be paid by them to ensure it continues development.
What? You used to be cool Obsidian. Seriously, yours is the ONLY Kickstarter I have given money to based on your excellent design chops. Then you go and give some of that money to this moronic ADD monkey that couldn't manage a kindergarten block building project. His Kickstarter DESERVES to fail, you should let it.

I am disappoint.
 

Grim1

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What? You used to be cool Obsidian. Seriously, yours is the ONLY Kickstarter I have given money to based on your excellent design chops. Then you go and give some of that money to this moronic ADD monkey that couldn't manage a kindergarten block building project. His Kickstarter DESERVES to fail, you should let it.

I am disappoint.
Did Mark piss in your cherios? I can understand being wary of his game, that's par for the course and a pretty safe bet. But your level of vitriol bespeaks of personal animus. Fess up Gomer, what did Mark do to you?
 

Pyksel

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Did Mark piss in your cherios? I can understand being wary of his game, that's par for the course and a pretty safe bet. But your level of vitriol bespeaks of personal animus. Fess up Gomer, what did Mark do to you?
Denaut = Rob Denton?
 

Denaut

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Did Mark piss in your cherios? I can understand being wary of his game, that's par for the course and a pretty safe bet. But your level of vitriol bespeaks of personal animus. Fess up Gomer, what did Mark do to you?
Never worked with the guy, but if you go through the thread you will see that I think he represents everything that is wrong with the MMO industry and what is wrong with my profession, design, in particular.
 

Draegan_sl

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He's not alone in that opinion either from some of the people I've talked to in the gaming industry over the years.
 

Grim1

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He's not alone in that opinion either from some of the people I've talked to in the gaming industry over the years.
That can be said of almost everyone in the gaming biz. It's a creative industry with lots of big egos. Mark is a moneyman, his job is to get funding and so far he seems to be getting that part done. His "design" atm is just hype to get interest. Complaining about it seems kind of nitpicky, trivial and puts the cart before the horse.

I doubt he will have anything to do with the actual nuts and bolts design when (if) his game is funded. He'll hand that off to the peons who don't have the talent for fundraising.
 

Blackyce

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He's not alone in that opinion either from some of the people I've talked to in the gaming industry over the years.
I think everyone in the forum saw this post coming a mile away.

Someone tell Draegan when the next McMMO is coming out so he can do a website and hype the nutz out of it like he has been the last 2-3yrs.
 

Pyksel

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That can be said of almost everyone in the gaming biz. It's a creative industry with lots of big egos. Mark is a moneyman, his job is to get funding and so far he seems to be getting that part done. His "design" atm is just hype to get interest. Complaining about it seems kind of nitpicky, trivial and puts the cart before the horse.

I doubt he will have anything to do with the actual nuts and bolts design when (if) his game is funded. He'll hand that off to the peons who don't have the talent for fundraising.
That raises a good question Grim, if this were being run by someone other than Mark Jacobs but the info released thus far on Kickstarter and the Foundation Principles didn't change would this project be more palatable to those that have such a seething hate for Mark?
 

Kirun

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I think everyone in the forum saw this post coming a mile away.

Someone tell Draegan when the next McMMO is coming out so he can do a website and hype the nutz out of it like he has been the last 2-3yrs.
Somebody is quite rustled..
 

Denaut

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That raises a good question Grim, if this were being run by someone other than Mark Jacobs but the info released thus far on Kickstarter and the Foundation Principles didn't change would this project be more palatable to those that have such a seething hate for Mark?
Ironically it is all his talk specifically about Camelot Unchained that lead me to this conclusion, so the answer is no it wouldn't be. I was pretty neutral on the guy before CU because I never worked with him and really never paid any attention to what he did or said. Once I started reading his posts on Camelot Unchained it quickly became clear that he fit into the amateur clueless designer archetype I am all too familiar with. Hell, even the rewards rundown on the Kickstarter page reads like the ramblings of a 13 year old off his Ritalin. I can only assume the copy is personally written by Mark in the same messy style of his jumpy, incoherent, unorganized blog posts.
 

Draegan_sl

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I think everyone in the forum saw this post coming a mile away.

Someone tell Draegan when the next McMMO is coming out so he can do a website and hype the nutz out of it like he has been the last 2-3yrs.
Well, my first fansite ever was WAAAGHHammer.com for WAR and my first interview was with Mark Jacobs. I have nothing against the guy, I'm just skeptical of the project solely based on those crazy design philosophy posts he made and how poorly constructed they were.

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Looks like Denaut said the same thing.
Oh I'll also mention that I'll make a website out of any game that looks like it'll have some legs and a decent size audience. Currently CU doesn't meet that criteria. When it gets financial backing and we get a better sense that it's moving forward then I'll definitely launch a website on it.

I typically only launch websites either close to a game launch or just after an impressive convention presentation (like Wildstar just had). I mean I could of launched wildstar junkies 2 years ago when I played it in 2011 at PAX Prime, but then the game didn't look very impressive. Obviously a lot has changes or has been released since then.
 
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That raises a good question Grim, if this were being run by someone other than Mark Jacobs but the info released thus far on Kickstarter and the Foundation Principles didn't change would this project be more palatable to those that have such a seething hate for Mark?
palatable?? if it was not mj with the same initial website and posts on it, it would neverrr get a second glance/betakenseriously -- maybe if it was 2000 again, which is how those posts read hype-wise: vapid, fanatical, idealistic.
 

Pyksel

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12k triangle Tuatha De Danann model. I'm not a 3d max guru so I have no idea what the relevance of 12k triangles is or what a realistic polygon count is these days but it's what Andrew Meggs has stated will be the limit for the in-game models.
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You can see it in basic motionhere.Video under April 4th update, about 1:15 in.