Civilization 7

I basically always run green so police state is covered for nicely. Getting police effect doubled can be huge. Also yangs free defense kinda makes him annoying to rush or bully. So, yeah, yang is a bro.

TL;DW
-Great People are now eligible to be Leaders of civilization, not just people who actually lead nations. So you can have cultural leaders, scientific thought leaders, whatnot.
-Game is broken up into Ancient, Exploration, and Modern ages that you can either play sequentially or separately.
-Civilizations are era-specific, and when the era ends in campaign mode you have to pick a new Civ for the new era, from a list of options based on flags you triggered in the previous era. Goal is to make your civ feel good whatever era you're playing, which was previously difficult to do with different tech/special units coming at different stages of the game. You get to pick some of your policies/traits you acquired in the previous era to carry forward with your new civ. Your leader stays the same through the campaign.
-Still looked to have tech tree as usual, same hexes as Civ 6 for world map. Policy page they showed looked real stripped back, but might have been early turns.
-Districts gone, buildings function like Districts did. Basically skipping the middle-man.
-Doomstacks are back, lead by military characters.
-You can sail up (some) rivers.
-New system of founding Villages that grow into Cities later? I assume it means Settlers are cheaper so you can grab early resources/locations easier.
-Tin back composing the main theme
-Locking cosmetics behind using their separate log-in portal.
-Battle passes and preorder bonus races.
-February 2025 release
-Pretty sure one of the speakers is a gargoyle shooting the interview during the night.

I wish doomstacks are back but my understanding is they are not. The commanders will allow you to pack up a limited number of units to move around, then unpack them when you're ready to fight - but they are unpacked into separate tiles still. Definitely an improvement because half of the downside of 1UPT is the tedium of moving units around... but it is not the return of stacks, unfortunately. I'll wait to hear more on how this plays out.

The changing civs thing after each era... not sure i've heard anybody excited about it. I don't get the point.

Gwendolin Christie as narrator is lame. At the start of the vid they were like "Who would your dream narrator for Civ VII be?" and i got excited for a half second to see if it was somebody awesome before they revealed it to be... her.

I have no faith they can improve the series at this point. They peaked with beyond the sword

Hopefully the AI is less special needs

I'll still get this because I'm a sucker for the series and the genre as a whole but can't say I'm overly excited after this reveal. IT feels like like they are copying a bunch of stuff from other games in the genre, which would be fine if they were amazing, except none of them set the world on fire.

civ4lyfe!

I used to rent civ at the local movie store for a week at a crack on SNES (or was it NES?) trying to make sure i had the highest leader scope since it was cartridge based saves back in the day! Loved that game so much...each iteration I play abunch but slowly have derived less joy.

Switching Civ's between era's sounds fucking horrible, sure there is plus's to balancing but conceptually that by itself makes me not want to play. It erodes the whole concept of the game...start as fucking cave men with fire and build my people into nuclear war capable assholes pretending to send people to space while I stockpile and start world war III. Swapping civ's sounds just meh

I hope they do a better job on the ingame custom map editor. I love jumping to the highest difficultly and giving myself parameters like i can change 15 tiles to whatever I want with whatever resources and pick 2 early techs so I build a super city. Civ 6 its way more complex then it needs to be with all sorts of bugs and then you spend 30 mins making a map but cant get it to play in your actual game etc.

Civ 1 on our Macintosh computer is some of the best video game memories I have as a kid. Definitely gave me an appreciation for world history that most other kids my age never had.
I really want to get back into these games but haven't played since Civ 3... I own 4 and all the expansions on Steam and 6 seems to only be $5 so maybe I'll pick it up.

Ya my introduction to the series was 3, loved it and then sunk hundreds of hours into both 4 and 5. Could never really get into 6 like the other ones, even with going back and trying the all the expansions.

I'm sure I'll pick it up and give it a shot but not feeling stoked about it, seems like it will be more of the same.

turbo said:

Switching Civ's between era's sounds fucking horrible, sure there is plus's to balancing but conceptually that by itself makes me not want to play. It erodes the whole concept of the game...start as fucking cave men with fire and build my people into nuclear war capable assholes pretending to send people to space while I stockpile and start world war III. Swapping civ's sounds just me

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That's just something you can do if you want to isn't it ? You don't have to do it.

It's got historical accuracy to it ( see: saxons -> english -> americans ), but I agree with you in not seeing the appeal gameplay wise. If it's optional though and other people like it, whatever.

That kind of flows through to their other changes they announced though, at best my response is lukewarm. Eliminating workers and builders, I can see how their thinking makes sense but it gives me too much in the way of WoW vibes where 'streamlining' everything ended up sucking the fun out of everything as well.

We'll see I guess - probably a few years after release when it's on sale for $10 ;p

Araysar said:

I think my turn off for recent Civ series is just because it has become too much like a board game on a PC. It's over simplified, overtly-cartoonish.

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I think Stellaris is the only "modern/recent" 4X game I've been able to sink long hours into for the exact same reasons. Even starting with 5 (4 to a small extent too, I guess), Civ became very cartoonish.

Judge a civ by how much they put into cgi leaders , and how much they reach to half invent fat chickes to put in