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fucker_sl

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so...i just read the last issue of Thanos Rising and.....what the fuck they have done ? now Death is just a delusion of his mind ?

i hope this is not a hint of what we going to expect in the movies
 

Column_sl

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I wouldn't worry about it. Almost all the movies are drawing from what happened in the 80-90s

Id say the only exception is the GOTG.
 

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The embodiment of Death is a figment of his imagination but not his love and desire to cause Death. He loves what Death is, the feeling of it's presence around him. I don't get how you couldn't like Thanos Rising. He's still an evil Shakespearean monster.
 

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I haven't read it, but my guess is because it just makes him nuts, basically. I mean, obviously you could say he was nuts anyway, but at least she was a real goal of his. Now he is no different than any other egomaniacal genocidal tyrant. Actually blending Love and Death together like that made him unique in a way. I was disappointed when I heard it because it sounds like just another cop-out. I mean, if Eternity and whomever else is real, why can't Death be?

If they had been setting it up all these years with exactly this goal in mind, it might be different, but you know that was never the intent, and thus it feels like yet another ham-fisted retcon to ruin another awesome character. They could have left Death completely out of the Avengers movies and they would still probably be awesome movies, but why ruin the comics this way? Only a tiny percentage of the moviegoers even read comics.
 

chthonic-anemos

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Are they saying Death isn't a Cosmic entity in Marvel anymore or just that Thanos never met the real deal?
 

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I haven't read Marvel comics in years and years but I seem to remember other characters interacting/reacting to her directly in Infinity Gauntlet...

How strange that they would decide to do that.
 

Zhaun_sl

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Just read All-Star Superman (thanks /co/!) after watching the movie a month or so ago. What a great story, really enjoyed it. Is Quintinium the many-coloured coat science guy a real character? Never heard of him before.

Anyway, I'm enjoying Infinity, even though I have only read like 1/3 of it. Last issue climax wins though ("What if I'm not a man?" "What?" *sploot!*).

Battle of the Atom is good, I don't think it makes a lot of sense, but I like seeing the Future X-Men people and the Cyclops-X-Men and Wolverine-X-Men teams interact.
 

fucker_sl

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The embodiment of Death is a figment of his imagination but not his love and desire to cause Death. He loves what Death is, the feeling of it's presence around him. I don't get how you couldn't like Thanos Rising. He's still an evil Shakespearean monster.
yes, he's still a shakespearean monster, but unless this story is true until he founds "the real deal" this whole thing is a massive retcon.....like 35 years long retcon. Death in the marvel comics is an actual being. Every Marvel Universe aspect have a cosmic being to rapresent it, they call them Cosmic Abstracts.

the quartet Eternity/Infinity + Death/Oblivion are the 4 major players (rappresenting time, space, death and nonexistence) and they are pretty real. If Thanos is nuts and he has never met the real Death, then every single Marvel hero is nut the same cause Death was present, in one way or another, in many cosmic crossovers


I haven't read it, but my guess is because it just makes him nuts, basically. I mean, obviously you could say he was nuts anyway, but at least she was a real goal of his. Now he is no different than any other egomaniacal genocidal tyrant. Actually blending Love and Death together like that made him unique in a way. I was disappointed when I heard it because it sounds like just another cop-out. I mean, if Eternity and whomever else is real, why can't Death be?

If they had been setting it up all these years with exactly this goal in mind, it might be different, but you know that was never the intent, and thus it feels like yet another ham-fisted retcon to ruin another awesome character. They could have left Death completely out of the Avengers movies and they would still probably be awesome movies, but why ruin the comics this way? Only a tiny percentage of the moviegoers even read comics.
on this i disagree. Death as a "real being" is present in many literature works. Even some movies have it rapresented in some movies (like Ingrid Bergman's Seventh Seal for example). The "grim reaper" is not that unknown to the general public

with this i dont mean she must be a prominent character of course. But let her be there. Hinting her presence

i imagine this scene when we see the room become cold with ice forming on the walls, plants dieng and everyone but Thanos feeling like choking. Then Thanos kneel and we just barely see her. We hear her steps, have a glimp of her tunic, we know she's there but she isnt actually shown. Thanos asks for orders or approval for his actions and in the end, all we see of her is a hand caressing his cheek. First a female hand, then it becomes a skeleton hand. Thanos say something like "i understand. i'll do your will" and she's gone. Everyone around him start recovering, traumatized by the experience

Hell, it would be cool if they made the public guess if he's crazy until that very scene


Are they saying Death isn't a Cosmic entity in Marvel anymore or just that Thanos never met the real deal?
that's what Thanos Rising tells us. At least until the point he obliterate Titan

I haven't read Marvel comics in years and years but I seem to remember other characters interacting/reacting to her directly in Infinity Gauntlet...

How strange that they would decide to do that.
that's what i say. It's a massive retcon that involve dozens of important character

Saying that he's crazy isn't that big a deal, anyways. They don't call him The Mad Titan for no reason.
he always was crazy in the sense that he's a murderous, egomaniac monster, not a schizophrenic
 

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Just read All-Star Superman (thanks /co/!) after watching the movie a month or so ago. What a great story, really enjoyed it. Is Quintinium the many-coloured coat science guy a real character? Never heard of him before.

Anyway, I'm enjoying Infinity, even though I have only read like 1/3 of it. Last issue climax wins though ("What if I'm not a man?" "What?" *sploot!*).

Battle of the Atom is good, I don't think it makes a lot of sense, but I like seeing the Future X-Men people and the Cyclops-X-Men and Wolverine-X-Men teams interact.
Leo Quintum is unique to All star. which has sparked alot of debate. Usually a mary sue character like that, in which the plot entirely revolves around is awful. but there is something about him, that fits.

The most popular theory is, he is Lex.
At very least he is a direct mirror of Lex. What Lex could have been if he wasn't a dick.

His comments when saying he will save Superman... or replace him if it comes to that.
his use of Bizarre clones.
"I'm trying to escape from a doomed world too, Superman... It's called the past."
Leo-"I could be the devil himself for all you know." Clark-"Oh, I think I'm a better judge of character than that, Professor. This is how much I trust you, Leo." (consider the ramifications as Superman would know he is Lex)
The hiaku. started by one of Leo's assistants, finished by Lex in his moment of universal clarity.

Thematically, superman is all about making things better, and getting his villains to reform. not murder them. A HUGE problem with the movie. In the book, solaris survives and in the far future is reformed. the ultimate success of superman would be saving Lex Luthor.

Morrison likes to write like that. You have to read The Invisibles like 3 times to understand it.
 

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I like it! I've never been a fan of Wolverine in the comics, it was only Hugh Jackman that made me give a shit at all about him.
 

TomServo

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wolverine has been on a shitslide since fatal attractions 75 when magneto yanked the adamantium out.
 

Caliane

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too popular for his own good really.

You have a bit character, that works well in a certain type of story. And he has a relatively low power level as it were.
With popularity suddenly he was everywhere. On 3 teams at once... somehow.. cameo in every other book. X-men suddenly became about him. Scott and Storm are the leaders. but Logan despite being a dick, and a "lone wolf" is inexplicable put as leader, in many alt versions, which tend to read like fanfiction because of it. Alot of this has hurt Scott as a character of course as well. Scott as the straight man, is almost always the one that takes the full brunt of Logan fanwanking.
Logans character often changes daily. you can read XvA and have one book/team where Logan is flipping about about Scott putting childrens life in danger, at the same time, hes on another team/book and he is personally killing children, and in a third book he is having sex with 16 yr old girls.(all of them. seriously its creepy. he is 120, and has had sex with an 16yr old Jubilee, 17 yr old Squirrel girl, and 17 yr old Jean, at least. probably more. I don't even want to know what is with X-23.)
 

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the best wolverine was the one you didn't see. As a morality issue in the comic world, super heroes don't kill, but wolverine can't exactly papercut you to submission, he really is built to kill, a short powerful knife tank (he weighs a lot since he's got lots of metal). In this way they limit him to getting beat up by more powerful villians and "healing" or letting loose on inanimate objects, mainly sentinels. He's a dope, but i said the best wolverine is the one you didn't see, the black-ops wolverine in xforce.

cyclops realizes, heck we gotta perma kill ppl that threaten mutants, gogo wolvie, xforce needs to sell some comics, go kill stuff, and he does. Then he becomes all emo and soon becomes the headmaster of the school or some crap, wtf.