Cord-Cutting, Or How to Stream your Way to Success

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Thanks for responding. I'll reread the last few pages and see what i can figure out.

The biggest issue is just learning Linux at this point. I'm sure the method exists and its fairly easy.
If you're looking for my setup, it will be way back. Not sure what the best way to find it would be, but probably over a year ago I'd guess.
 

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Unforseen problem with my new setup. I set my SD profile in Sonarr to include HDTV-720p, because often times those are available when SD isn't. The issue is, since those come first, they are snagged first, and it doesn't wait to get the SD quality of a episode. Why should it? But the issue then is, the 1 friend on my server has terrible buffer times now because my 6 upload, and the her 20 download, even with transcoding down the quality, have terrible buffer times.

My 6 upload isn't any good, but the setup worked when it was transcoding down SD episodes. lol.

Edit: The other issue is I have 80+ torrents now going. How do you guys decide when to clear them out? I'm obviously not getting enough upload to not be counted as a HnR, so I'm just burning through bonus points, at 50 per to clear the oldest ones out. I let them seed as long as I can. While I'm not uploading all that much at all, just the sheer number of open connections could be slowing things down maybe. I don't know.

Tempted to remove Torrents as an option, but figure out how to keep it in Sonarr, for when episodes are not found through Usenets.
 

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Unforseen problem with my new setup. I set my SD profile in Sonarr to include HDTV-720p, because often times those are available when SD isn't. The issue is, since those come first, they are snagged first, and it doesn't wait to get the SD quality of a episode. Why should it? But the issue then is, the 1 friend on my server has terrible buffer times now because my 6 upload, and the her 20 download, even with transcoding down the quality, have terrible buffer times.

My 6 upload isn't any good, but the setup worked when it was transcoding down SD episodes. lol.

Edit: The other issue is I have 80+ torrents now going. How do you guys decide when to clear them out? I'm obviously not getting enough upload to not be counted as a HnR, so I'm just burning through bonus points, at 50 per to clear the oldest ones out. I let them seed as long as I can. While I'm not uploading all that much at all, just the sheer number of open connections could be slowing things down maybe. I don't know.

Tempted to remove Torrents as an option, but figure out how to keep it in Sonarr, for when episodes are not found through Usenets.
There is an option to prefer Newsgroups over Torrents (or vice versa) in Sonarr. I'm not sure how long it waits before resorting to the secondary, but the option is there at least.

In regard to the quality issue, sounds like you're just screwed and should stick to grabbing SD only. I don't know how people watch in SD anymore though :p But aside from your upload, if it is transcoding down it sounds like more of a processor issue? I don't know enough about the inner working of Plex to say for certain, but if you can stream SD just fine when it starts as SD, but can't when it starts as 720p, that points me towards the transcoding process being the issue, not the upload. How good is your processor, memory, etc?

The number of torrents *could* be affecting your processor as well, but it shouldn't be too much of an issue once everything is just sitting there seeding. During the download and moving/linking that Sonarr does I could see it momentarily increasing processor load, but after that it should be fine with only 80. I used to have hundreds going on my home computer, only really ran into an issue when I got near 1000. I'm assuming you have a limiter on the upload speed of your torrents? Otherwise that could be eating up your bandwidth and it just looks like a 720p issue.

My first guess would be processor load from having to transcode, but if you have a beefy computer there goes that idea. Next would be no upload bandwidth limit on torrents. If you have that set though, no fucking clue what it might be.
 

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So what's the happy medium for upload limits?

I thought it was more but I have 75/5 internet. Within just a couple weeks, or less, I'm up to 103 torrents, and pretty easy to hit max upload. But if I don't set upload to unlimited, I'll never upload anything, and IPT will soon be useless. On 5 up internet, it actually isn't easy to get ratio. :( But if I leave it at unlimited, streaming to Plex is shitty.

Setup some QoS on my router? I don't know the best solution. :(
 

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Your router would be the best way, but I don't know much of anything about how specific you could be. If you could set it where if Plex is using it, it gets 100% of whatever it needs and tells your torrent program to fuck off, that would be the perfect solution. Not sure if that is possible, or if it is, if your router supports it. Much less how to do any of it.

Barring that, all you really need is bonus points and seeding time for IPT. I forget what it is but they actually introduced a seed-time goal as well as just 1:1. I want to say it is 5 or 6 weeks. So technically if you just limit your uploads to the slowest you can get during "Plex viewing hours" you'll still get tracker updates showing you are seeding and eventually they will hit the time needed, regardless of upload amount. You'll also be gaining bonus points as you go in case you just want to nuke particular ones to save space or whatever. Overnight you could remove the throttle and let it try to seed as much as possible too.

I don't remember what torrent client you are using, but I know rTorrent let's you assign a default "channel" to all new torrents too. The lowest pre-configured one is "16KiB up" whatever that equates to. So if you chose you could just set everything to that automatically and it should act as a sort of "keep alive" function. Or, you can do things like assign ratio groups, like "1:1" where as soon as it hits even ratio it automatically sets the upload to that 16KiB. That way every new torrent will try to seed as much as it can right away, but once you hit 1:1 it drops to minimum and can't eat up your bandwidth any more. In other words, that one really hot torrent isn't consuming all the bandwidth to get to 20:1 ratio while all your other ones struggle to even get 1:1. Of course, then you might be losing out on upload gigs too, since you just limited your best torrent.

Lots of different ways to configure things and decisions to make, although if you use any of these you aren't going to be able to just do a global limit/unlimit like I described in the second paragraph above. Still, if you aren't willing or able to remember to change it every night/morning (or configure it to automatically do it somehow), setting some of the automatic ones could go a long way to saving your bandwidth. I'm fairly certain other torrent clients would allow the same thing if you aren't using rTorrent.

Not sure what else to suggest, aside from buying faster internet of course, but that might not even be possible in your area for all I know. Whatever you do, don't fucking donate to IPT. You can earn enough bonus points to stay afloat if nothing else, and that guy is a huge fucking faggot and already makes a shitload of money from his sites.
 

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Yeah, I've got bonus points to last quite a while. I'm not terribly worried about it, but it'll eventually become an issue, as I do get over 1:1 on some, but out of 104 torrents right now, 4 have gotten over 1:1. That's it. So we'll see. I removed the HDTV-720p option from the SD profile as well, so it's back to just getting SD episodes, which is fine for me. That'll save on bandwidth as well. When I posted, I did forget about the time to seed, not just the ratio, but I was mainly concerned with my ratio dropping. I suppose if it gets bad enough I'll just have to start snagging Freeleech porn to build it back up or something.

I'll look into the scheduler, as that's for sure a thing. Probably a 3-4 hour window in the evening when Plex is being used that I could limit it and then the rest of the time just go unlimited.

I do have the option of better internet. The next tier up goes to 150/10, so that'd be a little better on the upload. Too bad it's just entirely overkill on price and download for what I need. :(

Thanks Void Void for all the help and chat.
 

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Crone Crone you are struggling with IPT ratio? I use IPT almost exclusively for movies, but it seems you are struggling with TV series downloads? I would get seeding Freeleech movies. I download BluRay copy freeleech movies for 90% of my IPT use. Maintaining ratio on IPT is probably the easiest in the private tracker world. I've got nearly 8TB worth of upload and 1 TB "counted" download. Freeleech is key. Eventually you will have tens of thousands of bonus points to just nuke torrent hit and runs.
 

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Crone Crone you are struggling with IPT ratio? I use IPT almost exclusively for movies, but it seems you are struggling with TV series downloads? I would get seeding Freeleech movies. I download BluRay copy freeleech movies for 90% of my IPT use. Maintaining ratio on IPT is probably the easiest in the private tracker world. I've got nearly 8TB worth of upload and 1 TB "counted" download. Freeleech is key. Eventually you will have tens of thousands of bonus points to just nuke torrent hit and runs.
I've got some 30k bonus points at this point. The issue is my upload is terrible, at just 5 mbps. So gradually, my ratio is going down because not but a couple torrents I ever get goes over 1.0, let alone anything higher.

I used to have 150/30 internet, and that shit was dope. I was over 4.0 ratio back then, now I'm gradually going down at 1.816.

I'll look into the Freeleech movies just to start building ratio.
 

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Some of the information in this thread is pretty old so I'm just going to come out and ask what I need. I have a friend that is not very tech savy that wants to cut the cord and go streaming everything, so I need something that is simple to setup and use that includes the following.

Live TV channels
TV show availability quickly after it airs (Within 1 day if possible)
Live Sports

I'm happy only using Netflix and Hulu but he wants more than that. He was talking about a Firestick you could buy modded that did all kinds of crazy shit, but he couldn't tell me specifics on it's features and content. Anyone have any thoughts or solutions?
 

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Quickest legit solution to much of that (added to Netflix and Hulu of course) is SlingTV. App for all kinds of devices that lets you purchase a subscription for various packages. I use it strictly for NFL RedZone, but I had to pay for a basic tier and then an extra package, so it isn't some a la carte nirvana like we all wish for, but it is relatively inexpensive and can fill a lot of those needs. You also get a free week to try it, so no reason not to. The streaming quality is good, no complaints here. I don't use it for anything else so I can't say just how comprehensive it is, but if he's got specific needs to fill, this might work if you aren't wanting to try to explain torrents or newsgroups to him.

The Fire Stick mod he's talking about is Exodus, you just install it on anything that plays KODI (easy to google, not going to bother explaining it), and it aggregates a bunch of different streaming sites for stuff like movies. So two days after a movie is released in theaters you might be able to see the same cam version you can download from torrent sites on there, but it doesn't magically give you a perfect copy until other people have perfect copies.
 
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Quickest legit solution to much of that (added to Netflix and Hulu of course) is SlingTV. App for all kinds of devices that lets you purchase a subscription for various packages. I use it strictly for NFL RedZone, but I had to pay for a basic tier and then an extra package, so it isn't some a la carte nirvana like we all wish for, but it is relatively inexpensive and can fill a lot of those needs. You also get a free week to try it, so no reason not to. The streaming quality is good, no complaints here. I don't use it for anything else so I can't say just how comprehensive it is, but if he's got specific needs to fill, this might work if you aren't wanting to try to explain torrents or newsgroups to him.

Sling + Netflix + Hulu with the antenna for local has been our combo that we've used since I cut cable over a year ago and it's worked fine for us. We don't miss anything that we want to watch and most of my sports needs are taken care of. We have two Roku boxes but I just bought a small 24" TV for downstairs that has roku built in and it works great. Still cheaper than what I was paying for cable.
 
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Got my new tv set up and going to put the older one downstairs that still has WiFi. Really trying to get rid of Comcast cable as the price keeps going up. I saw Playstation Vue and do like that it has live TV. What is the best thing to use it? Roku? Amazon Stick? Etc? Do I need anything else to "Cut the cord"? I have Netflix and Amazon already.
 

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Got my new tv set up and going to put the older one downstairs that still has WiFi. Really trying to get rid of Comcast cable as the price keeps going up. I saw Playstation Vue and do like that it has live TV. What is the best thing to use it? Roku? Amazon Stick? Etc? Do I need anything else to "Cut the cord"? I have Netflix and Amazon already.
Sign up for Comcast using a different name, and qualify for the new customer discounts. Just did this using the wife's info, and am getting 200/10 internet for $50 a month.
 

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Does it always stay $50 after the first year? Or will it increase? I can get the Extreme 250 speed and drop the cable, as that would still be cheaper than what I currently have. Lol.
 

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Got my new tv set up and going to put the older one downstairs that still has WiFi. Really trying to get rid of Comcast cable as the price keeps going up. I saw Playstation Vue and do like that it has live TV. What is the best thing to use it? Roku? Amazon Stick? Etc? Do I need anything else to "Cut the cord"? I have Netflix and Amazon already.

Thing is with Roku, most apps require a corresponding tv acct. You can go with something like sling and apparently AT&T will eventually offer an all streaming package through directv, but for now you either bum some infos or do as above, flip flop your subscriber in the house. We have a roku or Roku tv in every room but we still have to have a login to get anything of value.
 

Crone

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Does it always stay $50 after the first year? Or will it increase? I can get the Extreme 250 speed and drop the cable, as that would still be cheaper than what I currently have. Lol.
Stays $50 for a year only, then goes up to $90 I think.

I'm in a spot in my life right now though that I'm moving every year with a new lease. I'm just renting. Although, from what I've read, you can just flip/flop the owner of the accounts and it'll continue to get new customer discounts. So in a year, cancel your account, then have the spouse sign up for it, and have the switch happen the same day, and you'll continue on for another year with whatever discounts they have a year from now.
 

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I'm done. Fuck Verizon.

Verizon jumped my bill from 129 a month to 210. They fucked up and broke up my grandfathered in package, now they wont offer it to me again.

RCN is offering 330Mbs for 59 bucks in Boston. Snagged a Dlink and a Docsis 3. Grabbed couple Roku's, HD antennas, Sling TV for 25 bones, and told my dear sweet loving mother "We are are cutting the cord woman! Get used to it.". Well I actually begged her to please try and, and she finally agreed. She's actually pretty tech savvy for someone pushing 70. Will see how this goes.

My kids pretty much only stream anyway, so they care less. My moms only wanted local stations and maybe a couple stations like HGTV and shit like that. So she is covered. I will probably spend an extra 5 bucks on the Sling sports and see how I like it.

Overall I triple my speed. I lose no channels, and save about 110 bucks a month. I spent about 300 bucks on equipment, and initial billing for services is under 100 bucks. 400 bucks or so...this should equal out in less than 6 months.

Router was 120, Modem was 90.

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