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Just ordered some parts, lying ass Amazon. Said it was in stock when I ordered yesterday now today it's out of stock with a "who the fuck knows" when it'll ship displayed. Sigh. Guess I can throw my old busted 560 ti in my new setup until the 970 shows up. That'll be a depressing sight.
Edit: List of parts. I'm daring to go with new tech for the first time in a very long time. I'll be using my current case and power supply, Corsair 800D case and Corsair AX850 PSU that I got when I built this rig 4 years ago.
CPU:Amazon.com: Intel Core i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.3GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor BX80648I75820K: Computers Accessories
Motherboard:Amazon.com: ASRock X99 EXTREME4 LGA2011-v3/ Intel X99/ DDR4/ Quad CrossFireX Accessories
Memory:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 2666 (PC4-21300) 2666MHz C16 memory kit for DDR4 Systems (CMK16GX4M4A2666C16) at Amazon.com
Video Card:Amazon.com: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 Gaming 4GB GDDR5 PCiE Video Graphics Card GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD: Computers Accessories
SSD (replacing an older one):Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE1T0BW: Computers AccessoriesYeah that's right bitches. 1 TB. Sadly this thing costs well over $100 less than my 256 GB I got in October 2010.
Also a copy of Windows 8.1 since I'm still running 7 and some various small things like quieter case fans and a tube of thermal paste since all my spare PC parts are packed away in a warehouse right now and it's worth the $10 to buy a new tube than go sift through shit for 2 hours. Will get an aftermarket cooler at some point, just worried about getting the rig up and running right now. Overclocking comes later.
Jysin
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The fuck are you two retards talking about? Power Supplies don't just degrade over time to uselessness. Especially given the fact that this is a solid power supply based on a Seasonic X-Series. I use the exact same one myself. (Purchased mine in 2012) For his build, 850w is far overkill too and he would barely scrape 600w even with a lot of peripherals and a strong overclock. Complete waste to tell the guy to ditch a perfectly functioning PS for something new.
Amazon.com: Corsair Professional Series* AX 850 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Gold (AX850): Electronics
Corsair AX850 Review
Amazon.com: Corsair Professional Series* AX 850 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Gold (AX850): Electronics
Corsair AX850 Review
HARDOCP - Conclusion - Corsair AX850 850W Power Supply ReviewWhen we put this all together, we get a total score of 9, and thus the unit gets a "jonnyGURU recommended".
Performance
9.5
Functionality
9.5
Value
8
Aesthetics
9
Total Score 9
Summary
Computer power supplies have come a long way in just the last couple of years. With the implementation of resonant mode topologies and DC to DC converters for non-primary DC output, we've seen efficiency increase more and more. The AX850 is an example of how to implement these features as effectively as possible by avoiding the high ripple typically associated with resonant mode topology and the poor voltage regulation typically associated with DC to DC converters under load. The cost is high, but you get what you pay for.
The Good:
Efficiency just below 80 Plus Gold
Quiet, especially when the fan didn't spin at all!
Decent voltage regulation
Fully modular
Good ripple suppression
The Bad:
Nothing really bad to say here.
The Mediocre:
The price is high... but you get what you pay for!
Hodge podge of modular cables. Some sleeved... some flat.
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ITs one of the three components, video cards, power supplies and mechanical hard drives to consistently go bad over time, no one is saying degradation. You would be a fool to build a new $1000-$1200 rig around a 4 yr old $100-$150 component that could literally burn your shit up in a cloud of smoke.
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No need to scrap it. Just find an excuse to RMA it. Corsair will even do an express RMA and send you a new one first.
Jysin
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I've been building PCs since we used jumpers for BIOS settings. I can count on one hand the number of failed PSUs I have seen in my dozens of builds. One was my dumb ass plugging into 220v in Europe without flipping the switch. I work with PCs, IT, and comm equipment in one of the harshest environments on the planet (middle east) and still can count on one hand the failures we have had over millions of dollars of equipment.
When they do go, yes they can go spectacularly and take other components out. But that is such a remote chance that replacing a PSU "just because" every build, you are going to be out far more money going that route vs eating a PSU death in ONE PC every decade or two.
Again, stupid advice and a complete waste of money.
When they do go, yes they can go spectacularly and take other components out. But that is such a remote chance that replacing a PSU "just because" every build, you are going to be out far more money going that route vs eating a PSU death in ONE PC every decade or two.
Again, stupid advice and a complete waste of money.
Joeboo
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There are a lot of different theories on PSU degradation. The general consensus is they do degrade over time, but the arguments always come in as to how much to they degrade, and how much time are we talking?
Generally speaking, the #1 issue for degradation is usage/heat. The harder you push your PSU, and the longer you do it, the faster the capacitors will degrade. Most of us aren't doing 24/7 bitcoin mining or folding to where our computer is at 100% load all day long. Even as an avid gamer, your PC is going to average closer to minimum load than maximum load during most 24-hour periods.
All that being said, build some buffer into your PSU so you are pretty much never stressing it to 100% load, and most quality PSUs will last 10+ years with very little degradation. Yeah, if you game 8 hours a day on a 300W PSU that is running 100% load, you're going to have issues sooner rather than later, I wouldn't use that PSU after a few years.
Personally, I have a gold-rated 750W Seasonic PSU, and I'll probably use it in several PCs, it's only 3 years old at this point, I'll probably use it for at least another 5 years in whatever PCs I build.
Generally speaking, the #1 issue for degradation is usage/heat. The harder you push your PSU, and the longer you do it, the faster the capacitors will degrade. Most of us aren't doing 24/7 bitcoin mining or folding to where our computer is at 100% load all day long. Even as an avid gamer, your PC is going to average closer to minimum load than maximum load during most 24-hour periods.
All that being said, build some buffer into your PSU so you are pretty much never stressing it to 100% load, and most quality PSUs will last 10+ years with very little degradation. Yeah, if you game 8 hours a day on a 300W PSU that is running 100% load, you're going to have issues sooner rather than later, I wouldn't use that PSU after a few years.
Personally, I have a gold-rated 750W Seasonic PSU, and I'll probably use it in several PCs, it's only 3 years old at this point, I'll probably use it for at least another 5 years in whatever PCs I build.
Jysin
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This is kind of my point. Let's say you have a 10% failure rate (which is completely absurd). One in ten builds has a PSU failure, which in itself doesn't even guarantee to damage other components but for arguments sake pretend it does. You spend $100-$150 on a moderate PSU every build, that's $1000-$1500 for your ten builds. You need to spend MORE than that on damaged parts to come out ahead. It really makes no financial sense whatsoever. Nevermind the fact that failure rates are FAR FAR lower than that.
I will always advocate buying a good quality PSU with some overhead. Yes, that is the core of your system. But it doesn't need to be replaced for no reason whatsoever. They can last decades without issue.
Joeboo
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And speaking of PSUs, incredible deal on a high-quality PSU right here
SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply $65 after $25 rebate + Free Shipping - Newegg Deals, Coupons and Promos
SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply $65 after $25 rebate + Free Shipping - Newegg Deals, Coupons and Promos
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